>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:25:31 -0500, Bob Doolittle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>>> said:

    > If users use cards, you can use AMGH to direct all pseudo
    > (non-card) tokens to the CAM FOG when the card is removed.

Craig made a similar suggestion in his initial set of ideas.  The
difficulty here is that we don't want students hotdesking and leaving
disconnected/idle sessions on the servers.  I don't know of a way to
use cards without allowing hotdesking.

thanks,
-tom


    > Thomas L Baca wrote:
    >> We are very interested in doing the three-way CAM chooser, utswitching
    >> to Solaris and Linux FOGs (and uttsc to Windows TS).  Any ideas about
    >> how we can solve the utswitch-back-to-the-CAM-FOG-on-logout problem?
    >> 
    >> thanks,
    >> -tom
    >> 
    >> 
    >>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:16:30 -0700, Craig Bender <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> said:
    >>>>>>> 
    >> 
    >> > Not necessarily.  Let me think about it.  I wonder if we can do 
    >> > something on logout to utswitch it back...
    >> 
    >> > Thomas L Baca wrote:
    >> >> Thanks for the response!  This is a great starting point for us.
    >> >> 
    >> >> One related issue for us is that, being at the university, we have
    >> >> *lots* of users for relatively few DTU's.  So, I am reluctant to
    >> >> support hotdesking for student users because of the likelihood of
    >> >> many, many idle sessions taking too many resources on the servers.
    >> >> 
    >> >> My IT support team *does* use card-based hotdesking to great
    >> >> advantage, and I may even consider opening that to
    >> >> faculty/instructors.
    >> >> 
    >> >> So, does not supporting hotdesking for students throw a monkey wrench
    >> >> into the works?
    >> >> 
    >> >> thanks,
    >> >> -tom
    >> >> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> 
    >> >>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:52:44 -0700, Craig Bender <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> said:
    >> >>>>>>> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> > Yes.  It could be done a few ways.
    >> >> > Have two or three FOG's/or stand alone servers, but the DTU's only 
being 
    >> >> > directed to the one FOG/server
    >> >> 
    >> >> > You could enable NSCM and non-card users would get solaris.  You 
could 
    >> >> > customize the S10 artwork on the log in screen to direct users to 
insert 
    >> >> > card for linux or windows.
    >> >> 
    >> >> > Card users would get CAM that displayed a chooser application that 
    >> >> > offers windows, linux
    >> >> 
    >> >> > If they click linux, it utswitch to the linux fog/server, if 
windows run 
    >> >> > uttsc locally and connect to a terminal server.
    >> >> 
    >> >> > You could then use AMGH to return the DTU's to the primary fog.
    >> >> 
    >> >> > Or you could do a chooser that offers three applications.  and 
    >> >> > utswitches over to the linux or solaris servers.
    >> >> 
    >> >> > It would be best to do that with cards so you could use AMGH to 
return 
    >> >> > the DTU back to it's home server.  Or you could just instruct the 
users 
    >> >> > to power cycle the Sun Ray when the logout.
    >> >> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> > Thomas L Baca wrote:
    >> >> >> Suppose you had some of each:
    >> >> >> 
    >> >> >> Windows Terminal servers
    >> >> >> Solaris Sun Ray servers
    >> >> >> Linux Sun Ray servers
    >> >> >> 
    >> >> >> ...and wanted to present a choice to users at the dtu startup 
screen,
    >> >> >> before login (e.g., with CAM), as to which system they wanted to
    >> >> >> connect to initially.  Is it possible?
    >> >> >> 
    >> >> >> I'm in a university environment and want to give easy access to 
each
    >> >> >> of those operating environments without the Windows user having to
    >> >> >> know how to navigate a Unix/Linux environment, even briefly, and
    >> >> >> vice-versa.
    >> >> >> 
    >> >> >> For our purposes this sort of *simple* universal terminal
    >> >> >> configuration would be ideal.
    >> >> >> 
    >> >> >> Thanks for any ideas, hints, etc.
    >> >> >> 
    >> >> >> -tom
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