Will, Thanks so much for the excellent advice. Could I write you at your email address for some extra help if I need it after I get the card? I promise not to write to you more than 30 times. I'm kidding! This has gotten me excited again about hacking old school macs into a sweet Frankenmac! George
--- Will S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: George Namcam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: G3/900 mhz and an XLR8 zif carrier > > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:04:10 -0800 (PST) > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Has anyone gotten a PowerLogix PowerForce > G3/900MHz > > ZIF with 512K L2 On-Chip Cache working with an > XLR8 > > zif carrier card in an S900? This would be a dream > > come true. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Here' s what I know about this subject. I know of > two people who have > done this. The first person used the G3 800 MHz > version. This was last > spring sometime maybe May. The trick was to set the > micro size switches > on the Zif as for the beige G3 ( B&W machine is the > only other setting > given and Old World Macs won't boot using this > setting) You then use > the jumpers on the XLR8 carrier card to set the bus > speed. The > multiplier jumpers on the Carrier card are set to > off. (Likely over > rided by the Zif anyway) software from powerlogix > lets you set the > Multiplier on the fly! I think it's called CPU > Director. Which does let > you chose to over clock the Zif or not and has the > other usual cache > control settings. he was able to run the G3 800 at > speeds just over 900 > MHz but settled on a bit less then that. The Zif is > a bit thicker then > the ones that came with the Carrier cards and he > made his own custom > heat sink to fit. he seemed happy with it. > Second person bought the G3 900MHz sometime this > fall. He found > hooking a wire on the end of the clip let him use > the heat sink that > comes with the Carrier card. The card comes with > slip of paper in the > box saying that use of the card with the Beige G3 is > limited to a > multiplier of 13. This is bad news for us and the > only notice from > Powerlogix they have put a speed limit on the card > while keeping it a > secret until you buy the card! (outrageous I think!) > (There maybe a > good reason for doing this. The chip used may not > have any thermal > protection built in unlike other G3's and over > clocking too high may > burn the chips up) Which means the card is limited > to something like > 864 apox in the beige G3 and less in old World > machines depending on > the bus speed you can get out of your machine. This > guy has found that > his S900 Umax runs fine with this card and a bus > speed of 58MHz . 58 x > 13 = 754 MHz not bad for the price but not 900MHz ! > Most Umax > S900/J700 should be able to do that speed. A few may > do better 60 MHz > is usually the limit but best not to push that hard. > many Apple > machines work best at 50 MHz which would only give > you 650MHz ! So on > the pre-limited cards the switches on the ZIf were a > general starting > point on the cards and software let you make the > final bus speed > choices. On the current cards the switch sets the > highest multiplier > speed (13) and software will let you lower that but > not raise it. > Powerlogix tech support while not as bad as Sonnet > ;-) could be better. > I was told try it if you want ,it should work but we > have no info to > help you in anyway this is an unsupported use. > However the 30 day money > back will cover you if it doesn't work and the 2 > year warranty will > cover the unsupported use. Better then most > companies would do! > The G3 is now back on the price list speed limit is > likely but unknown > to me as to what it is. > So while these sell for good prices that and the > fact that Video > encoding is more then twice as fast with a G4 has > kept me from buying > one. Also I think iDVD and for sure Studio Pro 2.0 > requires a G4 . > However most other apps and general use would see a > major improvement > with this Zif. later Will S > > > -- > SuperMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> > and... > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | > Refurbished Drives | > Service & Replacement Parts [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > & CDRWs on Sale! | > > Support Low End Mac > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > SuperMacs list info: > <http://lowendmac.com/supermacs/list.shtml> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; > Send list messages to: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/supermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Think Different Store > http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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