RE: << >Message: 7
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:13:17 -0500
>From: "Justin Wood (Callek)" <cal...@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: SM uses too much CPU time >>
Clearly, as seen from the mostly outside observer, knowledgeable in most but
not all respects...
Another reason that SM 1.x should have been abandoned long ago, albeit learned
from, and SM 2.x completely focused upon.
In my past resplies and musings, I know that I brought up the same idea, but
it's so clear that SM 1.4 came into being far too late, and that SM 2.x
represents a massive shift to something far improved.
SM 1.x is a dead horse...it died a LONG time ago. It is befitted with a great
number of problems built upon an old and outmoded Gecko engine that itself has
been long since improved upon.
All the man/woman power expended on SM 1.4 seems of little use, as SM 1.4 was
too old when it was "released", and there is an apparent split of time,
people-power and other resources that should have been long ago appled to SM 2.
With this division of valuable resources, by the time SM 2 reaches late Beta,
the rest of the world will be in 2010...if past and current stages and events
are any measure.
Is the above the ravings of a madman or one who is not in the know? Sorry, no,
not at all.
Joe
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Subject: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 37, Issue 44
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:02:25 -0800
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> 1. Re: What is a throbber? (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
> 2. Re: What is a throbber? (?Q?)
> 3. Re: What is a throbber? (?Q?)
> 4. Re: What is a throbber? (Sqwertz)
> 5. Re: changing the busy throbber (Gerald Ross)
> 6. Re: changing the busy throbber (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
> 7. Re: SM uses too much CPU time (Justin Wood (Callek))
> 8. Viewing messages (NO)
> 9. Old e-mails disappeared (David & Genelle Massey)
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:47:57 -0800
>From: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> <peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: What is a throbber?
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <poednveolkbup-7unz2dnuvz_h4aa...@mozilla.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>JeffM wrote:
>>> John Doue wrote:
>>>> [about the throbber]
>>>> As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes.
>>>>
>> ?Q? wrote:
>>> That thing's an abstraction of a Sea-Monkey, not a bird.
>>> Actual Sea-Monkeys look like this:
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemia_salina.jpg>
>>
>> ...and, as is indicated on that page,
>> *sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
>> I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
>> who put ads in the back of comic books
>> so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.
>
>SeaMonkey was the developers term when they were
>programming Netscape
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:43:59 -0600
>From: ?Q? <boxc...@gmx.net>
>Subject: Re: What is a throbber?
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <20090118154359.603f1...@bellgrove.remarqs.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>In
><news:096a263d-5bf4-441b-9eb3-28cde4b13...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>JeffM <jef...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> >John Doue wrote:
>> >>[about the throbber]
>> >>As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes.
>> >>
>> ?Q? wrote:
>> >That thing's an abstraction of a Sea-Monkey, not a bird.
>> >Actual Sea-Monkeys look like this:
>> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemia_salina.jpg>
>>
>> ...and, as is indicated on that page,
>> *sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
>> I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
>> who put ads in the back of comic books
>> so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.
>
>Yes, the marketing name is "Sea-Monkeys". They got me at about that
>age, and KaiRo more recently. ;)
>
>Old ad: <http://therawfeed.com/pix/seamonkeys-lg.jpg>
>
>Current site: <http://www.sea-monkeys.com/>
>
>KaiRo's:
><http://home.kairo.at/blog/2007-09/sea_monkeys_living_in_a_seamonkey_team_m>
><http://home.kairo.at/blog/2008-03/6_month_old_sea_monkeys>
>
>I've set the followups to mozilla.general.
>
>--
>?Q? /"\
> ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ /
> against html e-mail X
> <http://asciiribbon.org/> / \
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:22:17 -0600
>From: ?Q? <boxc...@gmx.net>
>Subject: Re: What is a throbber?
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <20090118162217.1810c...@bellgrove.remarqs.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>In <news:poednveolkbup-7unz2dnuvz_h4aa...@mozilla.org>,
>Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
><peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> SeaMonkey was the developers term when they were
>> programming Netscape
>
>The developers had come up with the code name "Buttmonkey", and
>Netscape management changed it to "Seamonkey". Thankfully, the
>SeaMonkey Council did not revert to the older term when naming the
>SeaMonkey suite.
>
>--
>?Q? /"\
> ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ /
> against html e-mail X
> <http://asciiribbon.org/> / \
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:00:34 -0600
>From: Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
>Subject: Re: What is a throbber?
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <39hzb4x4u206$....@sqwertz.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>JeffM <jef...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> *sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
>> I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
>> who put ads in the back of comic books
>> so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.
>
>I spent some of my hard earned paycheck on those just last month.
>And I'm 41 years old.
>
>I keep them in my office at work. Something to watch and pass the
>time when I'm not busy posting nonsense on Usenet.
>
>-sw
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:48:06 -0500
>From: Gerald Ross <g...@comsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: changing the busy throbber
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <a7adnvffpoteuo7unz2dnuvz_jgdn...@mozilla.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when
>> its busy], put the following script into your
>> userChrome.css file or into Stylish. The image is a
>> book turning pages. You can use any moving image you
>> want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.
>>
>> toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy="true"]
>> {list-style-image:
>> url("data:image/gif;base64,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
>+0
>> 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
>Wd/
>> fHdfU4V1h1qJdIBmhCeKR1KIfpQyBaChJXlze1KnBKcfpqqtqk06sbKztLIhtyG2uLgRAAA7")
>> !important;}
>>
>
>I tried cutting and pasting (while SM was closed) this and nothing
>changes. Any Idea what went wrong?
>
>--
>Gerald Ross
>Cochran, GA
>
>Social Security: World's biggest Ponzi Scheme.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:58:39 -0800
>From: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> <peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: changing the busy throbber
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <lzwdnf7ribqduu7unz2dnuvz_rvin...@mozilla.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Gerald Ross wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when its busy], put
>>> the following script into your userChrome.css file or into Stylish.
>>> The image is a book turning pages. You can use any moving image you
>>> want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.
>>>
>>> toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy="true"]
>>> {list-style-image:
>>> url("data:image/gif;base64,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
>o
>>>
>> +0
>>> 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
>N
>>>
>> Wd/
>>> fHdfU4V1h1qJdIBmhCeKR1KIfpQyBaChJXlze1KnBKcfpqqtqk06sbKztLIhtyG2uLgRAAA7")
>>> !important;}
>>>
>>
>> I tried cutting and pasting (while SM was closed) this and nothing
>> changes. Any Idea what went wrong?
>
>what did you cut and paste, and where did you put it?
>
>--
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>help!!!! Emails to me may become public
>
>Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech
>Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world,
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>
>Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon:
>http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3
>http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:13:17 -0500
>From: "Justin Wood (Callek)" <cal...@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: SM uses too much CPU time
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <wrcdnxrfsmltcu7unz2dnuvz_q3in...@mozilla.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>On 1/18/2009 3:43 PM, Ray K wrote:
>> Ray K wrote:
>>> As I write this, Task Manager is reporting that SM is hogging 89
>>> percent of the CPU time even though no downloads are in progress and
>>> the Stop button is gray. Only a single instance of SM browser is open;
>>> Mail & Newsgroups is closed and no other applications are running.
>>>
>>> Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do about it? I've run
>>> Spybot and Crap Cleaner.
>>>
>>> SM 1.1.14, W2k Professional, SP4 and dozens of hot fixes.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>> Another problem that may be related. Sometimes, TM shows 100% CPU usage
>> while I'm attempting to download a page. TM also shows SM as Not
>> Responding. If I wait 15-45 seconds, SM usually resumes running and the
>> download completes.
>>
>> During the period that SM is not responding, clicking on Stop does
>> nothing. If multiple instances of SM are open, and I close one of them,
>> all will close, along with the Mail/Newsgroup application.
>
>SM2 alphas are already _greatly_ improved in this regard.
>
>Stay tuned for those improvements!
>
>--
>~Justin Wood (Callek)
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:34:41 -0500
>From: NO <"Bo1953(NO)"@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Viewing messages
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <m8gdnsa2tfjvjenunz2dnuvz_gudn...@mozilla.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Hello all.. I have encountered this before and fixed it, yet cannot
>remember how to now.
>
>There are a few messages which I receive that are totally in code, then
>others are blank and unreadable.
>
>These messages are from people or organizations which I have received
>before and can read on other computers.
>
>I Am using SM 1.1.14 and Vista business.
>
>Thank you again.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:02:15 -0900
>From: David & Genelle Massey <dgmas...@gci.net>
>Subject: Old e-mails disappeared
>To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>Message-ID: <49742577.1020...@gci.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>My old e-mails disappeared overnight. I didn't do anything to the
>program. They were there when I went to bed and gone when I got up.
>Any chance of recovering them? Thanks, Dave :-)
>
>
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