On 5/13/10 8:45 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote: >> On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Net <tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be> >> wrote: >>> Russ Hunt wrote: >>>> Well. >>>>> I have "general.useragent.extra.firefox" set to "NOT Firefox/3.6". See >>>>> if that helps you. -JW >>> >>>> Hm. I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set >>>> that? >>> >>> in SM browser, type the url about:config >>> then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox >>> then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6 >> >> Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later >> with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But >> I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so >> as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's >> going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will >> decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing >> occurring more frequently. > > The problem is not in SeaMonkey. The pronblem is that some Web servers > deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using, > detecting your browser by what is called "sniffing". Further, many > servers sniff incorrectly, looking for "Firefox" when they should look > for "Gecko". > > What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox. > This is called "spoofing". By spoofing, you are compounding the problem > by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used. This > will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no > need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff. This puts all SeaMonkey > users at a disadvantage. > > The proper way to address this problem requires three actions: > > 1. Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when > necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times. Such extensions > include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher. They automatically eliminate > spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey. > > 2. Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with > SeaMonkey. Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based > browsers that are not Firefox. Refer them to > <http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko> and thus losing > potential audience. > > 3. File a Tech Evangelism bug report at bugzilla.mozilla.org. If you > don't have an account there, creating a new account is easy. If the > whole thing seems too daunting, post a reply here to ask someone else to > file the bug report. > > For an explanation of sniffing, see my > <http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff>. > > For an explanation of spoofing, see my > <http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#spoof>. >
Since the other participants in this thread either deny the bellaliant.net site has a problem (and prefer to point their fingers at SeaMonkey) or else enjoy ranting too much to take productive action, I have submitted bug #565675. See <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565675>. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Go to Mozdev at <http://www.mozdev.org/> for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
