Arnie Goetchius wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Arnie Goetchius wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Arnie Goetchius wrote:
Daniel Barclay wrote:
Rick Merrill wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:


Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem.
When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while
with the
delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the
mail
are changed. Someone told us that resetting the "unread" status is
done
by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers
lives
in their gold-tower.

On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a
filter
moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks.

Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have
any
other explicit "Delete" operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a
message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves
it to the Trash folder, "deleting" is the same as "moving to the Trash
folder" (in SeaMonkey 1.1).

Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate
between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they?

Daniel

You are correct SM 2 filters do not differentiate between deleting and
moving to Trash. However, that is not the subject of this discussion.
The discussion is centered on what happens when you manually delete a
message. In SM2, "deleting" an "unread" message moves it to trash and
classifies it as "unread". However, in SM2, "moving" an "unread"
message
to Trash changes the status to "read". It should leave the status as
"unread" just as "moving" (or using a filter) does.

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116 for a proposed
fix for this problem.


If your work in Three pane Mode http://screencast.com/t/ZDA2ZTUwO

the click the devider between the Subjects (header) and content
(preview) so you see similar to this. http://screencast.com/t/MjU0MjZiY

anything you drag to to trash or or click on delete button they will
remain unread (http://screencast.com/t/MjNjNjE1N). as long as they
remain unread they will remain unread even in trash.

If you have set any other way so you view the contents the it is a read
message. SM doesn't work any diffiferent than Communicator did in this
respect.

I set it up exactly as your screenshots show and it still sends an
"unread" message to Trash as "read" after I click on the "Delete" icon
that you show in your screen shot. Don't know what to say. I'm using SM
2.05 and your approach does not work for me.

Try turning item off shown with arrow drawn to it and see what happens.


I turned them both off, deleted an "unread" using the delete icon in the
three pane setup and it still ends up in Trash as "read". I know there
are some differences when you use POP or IMAP as your mail server.  I'm
using POP. Are you using POP or IMAP?
Pop.

I don't understand why. naturally if you open the file then it is marked as read. but if you click on the devider so that only topics (subjects, header) show as long as I don't double click on the I can throw them or move them to either trash, or junk file without file been changed to marked as read.

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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.        "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net        mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com
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