Thanks for that, Paul. I'll add the C:\drive because I never want to go through that kind of restoration again. Well, I'll never go to HP again!
-----Original Message----- From: support-seamonkey-bounces+nasga=verizon....@lists.mozilla.org [mailto:support-seamonkey-bounces+nasga=verizon....@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:55 PM To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 88, Issue 41 Send support-seamonkey mailing list submissions to support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org You can reach the person managing the list at support-seamonkey-ow...@lists.mozilla.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window (Hartmut Figge) 2. Re: Archiving Mail (Paul B. Gallagher) 3. Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window (?Q?) 4. Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window (GerardJan) 5. Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window (Hartmut Figge) 6. Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window (?Q?) 7. Archiving Mail (Lori) 8. Re: Context menu horrible large and it doesn't work in 2.17 (Jens Hatlak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:29:48 +0200 From: Hartmut Figge <h.fi...@gmx.de> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window Message-ID: <5167f02c.7020...@hfigge.myfqdn.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Daniel: >So might you be suggestion that it's a problem on the "Inbox" side of >SM mail, rather than on the "Outbox" side of SM mail?? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861128 should give answers. You may comment there. ;) Hartmut ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:17:57 -0400 From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Archiving Mail Message-ID: <xoudnukwgqrzzvrmnz2dnuvz_oidn...@mozilla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Lori wrote: > Through the Forum, I learned how to archive Sea Monkey and where, and > I was grateful. I've been on computers for years, but not too techie, > due to production push. > > When my laptop turned blue (constant blue screens), I sent it back to > HP for repair, specifically asked them to save all my files. When it > came back, all the mail files on the C:\ drive were gone, together > with all my added software programs. I was able to reinstall all the > extra programs, but all the mail was lost. > > So, isn't that a call for copying those C:\ files somewhere off the > computer for safekeeping - disc, external drive? Yep. "If you love me, back me up." Here are a few basics to look for in a good backup system: 1) Saves your data separate from the system you're backing up. If a disaster will take out both the computer and the backup, you haven't gained anything by using it. 2) Automated, scheduled, regular. If you have to consciously choose to back up, you'll forget or make excuses and it won't happen. That's when disaster will strike and you'll be SOL. 3) Fast and easy, both to back up and to restore. Your backup system should take no more than a few hours to save or restore the entire contents of your HDD. (Incremental backups or specific file restores should take only a few minutes, of course.) A major expense of disaster recovery is reconstituting all your installed programs, customizations, etc., so you don't want to save just a few key data files. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:31:55 -0500 From: ?Q? <boxc...@gmx.net> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window Message-ID: <20130412103155.14ef4...@fuchsia.remarqs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:59:52 +0200 Hartmut Figge <h.fi...@gmx.de> wrote: > Geoff Welsh: > > >I lost track of this thread days ago, > > Not only you. *g* > > >but now that you guys have broke it down, I can tell you that the > >prob is reproducible on Mac SM 2.17 too. > > There are two parts. One is the producing of a line in the headers > consisting only of a space after the Subject by SM, the other is the > handling of this problem in the treadpane. > > I am waiting for more answers in a German NG once the night is over. > What about TB? > > http://groups.google.com/search?as_umsgid=51674ffa.7080...@hfigge.myfqdn.de > > May you who read this have less difficulties with German than i have > with English. :) My German is not good enough to follow that, unfortunately. My take on the problem with what SeaMonkey sends: It's clear that no header should be folded in the way SeaMonkey has folded the Subject in this case. (In RFC language, SeaMonkey MUST NOT fold this way.) Why SeaMonkey wants to fold such a short Subject header in the first place is beyond me, but if it is to be folded, it should be folded *before* the last non-whitespace characters in the field. My take on what SeaMonkey displays: Unfolding should only remove CRLFs which are immediately followed by whitespace. That's true whether the folding is compliant with RFC 2822 or compliant with the obsolete RFC 822. But in this case, in the thread pane view, the CRLF immediately before "Content-Type" has been removed during the unfolding, making that line a continuation of the Subject field; that CRLF is *not* followed by whitespace, so it should be treated as the end of the Subject header, not as something to be unfolded. I tried to follow the bugs linked from <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c16> and subsequent comments to find out what algorithms SeaMonkey uses for folding and unfolding, but I got lost. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:41:05 +0200 From: GerardJan <gertjan.vinkeste...@nospam.gmail.com> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window Message-ID: <scudncgqg5emtvxmnz2dnuvz_usdn...@mozilla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 04/12/2013 01:06 PM, Daniel wrote: > Hartmut Figge wrote: >> Hartmut Figge: >> >>> The bug is reproducible now. 64 or more characters in the subject + a >>> trailing space suffice to trigger it. >> >> I have opened a thread in a German NG to gather more information. It is >> night now, so it will take time for answers, but one is already there. >> >> TB using IMAP could not reproduce. Maybe POP3 is a required condition. >> Or TB is not affected. >> >> Hartmut > > Just FYI, Hartmut, I am POP3. > > So might you be suggestion that it's a problem on the "Inbox" side of SM mail, > rather than on the "Outbox" side of SM mail?? > I use *imap* for incoming and *smtp* for outgoing mail and news -- ~Vink mailto:gertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com home:http://ciudadpatricia.com homepage:http://vinkesteijn.info // running on Fedora (redhat) version 17 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:52:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Figge <h.fi...@gmx.de> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window Message-ID: <51682db3.3000...@hfigge.myfqdn.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii GerardJan: >On 04/12/2013 01:06 PM, Daniel wrote: >> Just FYI, Hartmut, I am POP3. >> >> So might you be suggestion that it's a problem on the "Inbox" side of SM mail, >> rather than on the "Outbox" side of SM mail?? > >I use *imap* for incoming and *smtp* for outgoing mail and news I am hiding since i discovered that i filed a duplicate. So i cannot answer, i am not there. Hart d&r mut ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:13:11 -0500 From: ?Q? <boxc...@gmx.net> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Message-Headers are erroneously ADDED AT THE SUBJECT in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's "Subject" window Message-ID: <20130412111311.2400c...@fuchsia.remarqs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:52:19 +0200 Hartmut Figge <h.fi...@gmx.de> wrote: > I am hiding since i discovered that i filed a duplicate. So i cannot > answer, i am not there. At least you caught it and marked it as a dupe yourself; no need to hide. But maybe now is not a good time to mention that Ray posted the bug link in the OP in this thread. ;) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:16:27 -0400 From: "Lori" <na...@verizon.net> To: <support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org> Subject: Archiving Mail Message-ID: <002301ce3799$16424990$42c6dcb0$@Verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archiving Mail. I do backup to an external hard disc, but never thought of looking there, because it wasn't set up to back up my C:\ drive; only docs, pics, etc. In future, I will be making a manual copy of the archives in the C:\ drive. Today's Topics: 4/12/13 7. Archiving Mail (Lori) 8. Re: Archiving Mail (G. Ross) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:41:55 -0400 From: "Lori" <na...@verizon.net> To: <support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org> Subject: Archiving Mail Message-ID: <000601ce376a$5a5e3eb0$0f1abc10$@Verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Through the Forum, I learned how to archive Sea Monkey and where, and I was grateful. I've been on computers for years, but not too techie, due to production push. When my laptop turned blue (constant blue screens), I sent it back to HP for repair, specifically asked them to save all my files. When it came back, all the mail files on the C:\ drive were gone, together with all my added software programs. I was able to reinstall all the extra programs, but all the mail was lost. So, isn't that a call for copying those C:\ files somewhere off the computer for safekeeping - disc, external drive? ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:53:48 -0400 From: "G. Ross" <g...@comsouth.net> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Archiving Mail Message-ID: <3eodnbl5vtyqevrmnz2dnuvz_gidn...@mozilla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Do you not backup your hard drive? Get a portable hard drive that plugs into the USB port and a good backup program. Do a backup regularly, and next time you can just restore the new drive to the point of your last backup. I worked in a hospital once that had also never heard of a backup. The hard drive crashed on one of the office computers. They sent the drive to have the data retrieved but somehow the thing was thrown away. Years of data lost forever. -- GW Ross Don't worry about the future, sooner or later it's the past. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:50:17 +0200 From: Jens Hatlak <j...@junetz.de> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Context menu horrible large and it doesn't work in 2.17 Message-ID: <p7ednbvnq-fg1pxmnz2dnuvz_g2dn...@mozilla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Jim wrote: > So I tried to download the latest version of Firebug (yes, I'm a > glutton for punishment), but when I click on the download button, it > doesn't do anything. Install Firebug from here: <https://getfirebug.com/releases/firebug/> HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak <http://jens.hatlak.de/> SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker <http://smtt.blogspot.com/> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey End of support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 88, Issue 41 ************************************************* _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
