Hello. Thank you for your technical support, but my problem is solved.

It is not necessary any more to send me an e-mail.

Cordially.



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Filter by language?.. (A Williams)
   2. Re: Filter by language?.. (Rufus)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 20:13:34 +0200
From: A Williams <root@localhost.localdomain>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Filter by language?..
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Rufus wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 04/09/2013 15:55, Rufus told the world:
...is there any way to invoke a filter based on the language of the
message content? i.e. - delete messages not drafted in one's native
tongue?

Well, that would involve the software being able to identify the
language. It's theoretically possible, I guess -- some wordprocessors, like MS Word, do it -- but a bit computing-intensive: the program would
have to check a fair sample of each message's body against a
spellchecker dictionary or something similar, and act if it does (or
does not) achieve a set percentage of "hits." I'm unaware of an attempt
to add this ability to TB, SM or any other e-mail client.


Yes. I think some Apple apps - Mail.app springs to mind - will ID the
language as you type and switch to the corresponding dictionary for
auto-correction. Which was a surprise to me the first time I saw that
happen as I was typing a paragraph in Spanish.

However, you appear to be mostly wanting to get rid of undesirable
messages in foreign languages. Wouldn't training the antispam filter to
consider those as spam be enough to cut down on the annoyance?


Mostly I want to filter usenet spam - I have a series of filters set up to explicitly delete porn-spammers (which was an interesting exercise to set up in and of itself) that work very well, however, ones in foreign languages still slip through from time to time. And seeing as I can't
speak dirty in seven languages...

...the easier thing to do would be to just delete any incoming post or e-mail that *isn't* in a language of my choosing. Especially seeing as
I can't read them anyway, spam or not.


The only way you could nail them is by the character set, and I
discovered recently that that can result in false positives.  Is it
worth the hassle? Do you get enough Tagalong / Swahili spam to make it
worth setting up special rules for it?
If I can't read it then it won't distract me.  Apart from that: "In
Chris Ilias we trust" and all that.  This group is moderated.


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 11:30:17 -0700
From: Rufus <n...@home.com>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Filter by language?..
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A Williams wrote:
Rufus wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 04/09/2013 15:55, Rufus told the world:
...is there any way to invoke a filter based on the language of the message content? i.e. - delete messages not drafted in one's native
tongue?

Well, that would involve the software being able to identify the
language. It's theoretically possible, I guess -- some wordprocessors, like MS Word, do it -- but a bit computing-intensive: the program would
have to check a fair sample of each message's body against a
spellchecker dictionary or something similar, and act if it does (or does not) achieve a set percentage of "hits." I'm unaware of an attempt
to add this ability to TB, SM or any other e-mail client.


Yes. I think some Apple apps - Mail.app springs to mind - will ID the
language as you type and switch to the corresponding dictionary for
auto-correction. Which was a surprise to me the first time I saw that
happen as I was typing a paragraph in Spanish.

However, you appear to be mostly wanting to get rid of undesirable
messages in foreign languages. Wouldn't training the antispam filter to
consider those as spam be enough to cut down on the annoyance?


Mostly I want to filter usenet spam - I have a series of filters set up to explicitly delete porn-spammers (which was an interesting exercise to set up in and of itself) that work very well, however, ones in foreign languages still slip through from time to time. And seeing as I can't
speak dirty in seven languages...

...the easier thing to do would be to just delete any incoming post or e-mail that *isn't* in a language of my choosing. Especially seeing as
I can't read them anyway, spam or not.


The only way you could nail them is by the character set, and I
discovered recently that that can result in false positives.  Is it
worth the hassle? Do you get enough Tagalong / Swahili spam to make it
worth setting up special rules for it?
If I can't read it then it won't distract me.  Apart from that: "In
Chris Ilias we trust" and all that.  This group is moderated.

...that's actually a very good idea - thanks. I can certainly set up a
set of rules containing language-reserved characters.

I think it's actually "Tagolog"...though mostly what I'd like to get rid
of is the Euro-porn stuff that gets spammed to a lot of usenet groups.
What I have set up now does a good job, but sometimes the odd - and I
mean *odd* - post slips through my current filter set.

--
      - Rufus


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