On 02/01/2014 08:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 2/1/2014 2:17 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:
On 1/30/2014 4:41 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
On 1/30/2014 1:13 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On 30/01/2014 02:23, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
Since it looks like 2.24b1 failed to build, will we see a 2.24b2 or
just straight to 2.24?

1. Our release engineering team says 2.24 uplift is on 3rd February.
2. There may or may not be a b1 but the timing is very tight.
3. "I'm very doubtful there'll be a b2"

Phil

And what does this lack/skipping of a stage, or two, of user testing
portend for the quality of the expected product release?

--Rostyk

To me the user it means I lack confidence and I'll stay on 2.21 for now.
I was told that all the bugs that concern me would be fixed by 2.24 so I
was going to do it, now I'm concerned and think I better skip to 2.25.
To many issues the last few releases to risk it.

2.23 has been really good for me. Snappy and fast. You should at least
be on that version if you're not already.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


There are a few serious bugs regarding e-mail that prevent me from using
that. Until the IMAP stuff is fixed I can't update.
I had to do this somewhere around 2.16 too when there was a string of
issues that was not fixed for a few versions.  Jumping a few versions at
a time has been less painful then getting the bugs along the way.

Honestly I'm very close to switching to FF/TB the number of bugs, lack
of enough SM team folks and lack of features and support for SM is
making me rethink this decision.  I already switched to TB for personal
e-mail and thinking for work it may be time.  I could use the fast
search in TB that SM seems they will never bring over for one. I just
don't like the TB UI.

Yes, I agree it's a better move. While SM is nice to basically have
Firefox/Thunderbird under the hood as one app, it's getting to the
point that even I think it needs to be killed off and just have
separate apps for the functions. Email clients are becoming a dying
breed but for many old-school people like me who want to port or
backup all our email dating from well over a decade ago, it's nice. I
think it makes sense to kill SM to focus all resources on Firefox and
Thunderbird as separate things even though I use SM as my *primary*
browser and have done so for eons.


I must disagree about killing SeaMonkey.  I consider SeaMonkey's user
interface to be far superior to Firefox's.  Furthermore, SeaMonkey
retains much of the user tailoring that has been removed from Firefox.
For example, I maintain four different profiles on SeaMonkey; for
Firefox, the Profile Manager is about to be removed or already was
removed.



That the profile manager is about to be removed or already has been is wrong.

Development on the stand alone profile manager has stopped and bug 214675 is no longer being worked on.

<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214675#c98>

Since the discussion lately is to terminate xulrunner, which the stand alone profile manager is based on, I would say the project is dead.

I use it for all my Firefox and Thunderbird profiles, but could probably get used to the built-in PM if necessary.

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