Hardly ever post here but I'm totally enjoying this message chain. EGold is a US based company that created a currency (e-gold) based on gold grams. They are, I think, the first out there to do that but their vulnerability appeared when they were raided in April 2007 for money laundering. They were innocent of that but were guilty of not having KYC, "Know Your Customer", established. In the USSR, errrr US, it's getting increasingly worse in the area of anonymity. The charge was that they were helping terrorists (nevermind that terrorists use credit cards in most cases...facts are never relevant in taking away freedom). Ack enough soap-boxing.
Anywho, e-gold got nailed for subverting the Greenback (old law that says you can't have more than $100 of gold) and not having everyone's social like banks, credit cards and other financial institutions are required to do because of the unPatriot Act. e-Bullion and Pecunix are based in Panama which have greater freedoms but in America the problem is converting that money in a usable format. Pecunix is very secure but ECache is actually very, very anonymous. I'm not aware of Dalpay. What information do you have to provide to become a merchant of theirs? It looks like what they allow you to sell is fairly strict. Is XeroBank using them to process their cards? Thanks On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>wrote: > On Sunday 03 August 2008 03:34, Hierophant wrote: > > --- toad at amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > > From: Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> > > > To: support at freenetproject.org, hierophant at hell.com > > > Cc: Steve Topletz <sales at xerobank.com> > > > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] (no subject) > > > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:08:20 +0100 > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > Cool. However I would point out that there is an entire industry > > > dedicated to reversing money anonymisation schemes. > > > > Yes, I'm aware of the eGold mess et alia. > > eGold mess? Not aware of that one... > > > The anonymity of my payments to XeroBank via Dalpay is vulnerable to > attacks > on either and/or their relationship. Although I do trust Dalpay based on > what I've read about their mission > <http://www.dalpay.com/pages/privacy.html>, they are in Iceland, and so > are > relatively vulnerable to governmental pressure. OTOH, Iceland did grant > asylum to Bobby Fischer [;-) > > > > But even if my anonymity at Dalpay is compromised, that yields only my > XeroBank payment account number. According to XeroBank, that doesn't > reveal > my XeroBank access account number (and vice versa). Of course, I'm pretty > sure that XeroBank could correlate the two accounts, especially if I paid > Dalpay via XeroBank's VPN (which I don't). > > > > So, if Dalpay betrays me, I'm left trusting XeroBank. It's problematic > that > we have no clue who's behind XeroBank. That's part of XeroBank's > security/privacy model. Basically, I've decided to trust Steve Topletz, > and > to trust that he wouldn't be part of XeroBank if it were evil, or clueless > and vulnerable. > > > > I trust Steve based on what I've read by and about him. He has an > apparently-impeccable reputation re cDc, Hacktivismo, Tor and so on. Given > his long association with security experts and privacy advocates, it's > arguable that he would have been outed long ago if he were working with the > FBI, NSA, KGB or whatever. Although Tor started as a US Naval Research > Laboratory project, it's totally open source now, and so any back doors > would > arguably have been discovered. Perhaps one could hide code in other code > via > encryption and steganography, but that seems unlikely. > > Yeah, government/corporate involvement in such things can often be > entertaining and surprising. :) > > > > Anyway, I welcome any and all comments. > > > > Hierophant > > hierophant at hell.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- Interested in selling your home? Ask me! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080804/3772ddb8/attachment.html>
