Dave,
Thanks for your generous reply. Both of us may be at the limit of what we
know about mixed platform networks apparently like (nearly?) everybody
else.
This issue has bothered me for a long time. No, no Mac ever appears in
the Network Neighborhood of a plain vanilla Windows 95 peer-to-peer
Microsoft Client TCP/IP Ethernet network. Likewise, no PC ever appears
in the Chooser of a Mac similarly networked with Ethernet via twisted pair
cable and a hub to the PC (The only way to make even another Mac appear in
the Chooser is to have AppleTalk enabled and to choose AppleShare in the
Chooser. PC's don't ordinarily speak AppleTalk.
I've read (Networking for Dummies by David Lowe, 5th Ed., pp. 304 f.):
[1] "If your network has an AppleShare server [not to be confused with
'AppleShare' option in the Chooser when AppleTalk is made Active--yikes! a
separate software program that lists in MacWorld as AppleShare IP 6.3 for
Mac 10 client $449.95], you can use the Windows client software that comes
with AppleShare to connect any version of Windows to the AppleShare
server. Doing so enables Windows users to access the files and printers on
the AppleShare server.
[2] "If you have Windows NT/2000 Server, you can use a feature called
Services for Macintosh to allow Macintosh computers to access files and
printers managed by he Windows NT/200 Server without having to install
special client software on the Macintosh computers.
[3] "If you use NetWare you must purchase separate NetWare client software
for your Macintosh computers. After you install this client software, the
Macs can access files and printers managed by your NetWare servers."
The above three observations are made at the end of a chapter on Macintosh
networks by Lowe in a Section called "What You Need to Know to Network
Macintoshes with PCs."
But a statement Lowe makes earlier in this same chapter contradicts what
he says at the end: "You can integrate Macintoshes into any network
operating system that recognizes AFP [AppleTalk Filing Protocol]. NetWare,
Windows NT/2000, Windows 95/98 and Windows Millennium edition use AFP to
support Macintoshes in their networks" (p. 299). (
How can it be both ways? I don't know about the others but if Windows 95
supports AFP, why isn't AFP indexed in the "Microsoft Windows 95 Resource
Kit''?
I knew that Skidmore College had an student ethernet intranet consisting
of PC's and Macs. I called their Computer expert who said, no, their PC's
and Mac's couldn't access each others files.
What I do know for certain is that when I click the Hosts button in FMP on
my guest Mac is that files available on my host PC appear. So FMP and
ebase do for us something truly remarkable. Now if I could only save all
my ebase files to the guest Mac's zip drive. It occurred to me that you
might be able to do this through the "Save a Copy As" option of the FMP
file menu. You can, one at a time. but it would be labor intensive to save
all of them that way. Probably the easiest and cheapest way out of this is
to acquire a SCSI adapter for the PC?
Henry Bookout
North Fork Environmental Council
POB 799
Mattituck, NY 11952
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Dave Shaw wrote:
> I'm at the limit of what I know about mixed platform networks , but I
> would have assumed that if both machines are on the network and you
> are able to share files (even with FileMaker's built-in file sharing)
> that you have all the hardware (e.g., network boards) and software
> (e.g., drivers) that you need.Turn on file sharing in the Mac. Look
> in the Mac's Chooser to see if any of the PCs appear. Does the PC
> Network Neighborhood show the Mac? Anyone else have more detail on
> this?
>
> >>>When a PC hosts a Mac on a LAN is it possible to back up the host's ebase
> >>>files
> >>>on a Zip drive attached to the guest Mac? Or is it necessary to acquire a
> >>>SCSI adampter for the PC and attach the Zip drive to that?
> >>
> >>As long as both machines are on the network, you should be able to
> >>back up from the Mac. The details depend on your setup. It might be
> >>possible to mount the host drive on your Mac and just copy the file
> >>set from there to your zip drive. You might need use the PC to make
> >>a copy to a shared folder, then go to the Mac and copy from that
> >>folder to the zip drive.
> >>--
> >>Dave Shaw Northwest Classics, Inc
> >>tel: 206-954-7526 fax: 206-625-1338
> >
> >
> >Dave,
> >
> >Both machines have etherNet cables running to a hub and are using
> >TCP/IP protocol. There are other PC's on this (peer-to-peer) network
> >as well and I have no problem with shared resources or folders among
> >the PC's. But no PC hard drive icon has *ever* appeared on the
> >desktop of the Mac and I have *never* seen *anything* PC on the Mac
> >except the "Host" radio button when opening the Mac as guest of the
> >host PC with ebase and FMP. I really do hope I am wrong because what
> >you have suggested would be so wonderful! But the notion of copying
> >anything on the hard drive of a PC or from a PC's shared folder to a
> >Zip drive on the Mac without additional (expensive) software
> >completely baffles me. Please set me right if this can really be
> >done.
> >
> >Henry
> >
> >
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