On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 02:21 +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: > See, I do understand that they've got their own pressures. But by merely > trying to work on GTA03 (hardware or software), it's like they've thrown > their hands off the GTA02. And that's not the right attitude towards > that either. I hope that this thread at least awakens them to the > reality that their users are frustrated with them not doing anything > over the GTA02. ......
I have been following this thread for a while and I'm fairly sure it's been explained to you very specifically (and even if not, there have been at least a few posts about this): when they said they were working on gta03 they meant the software stack that will be default for the gta03 hardware. This means the old gta02 will still work with the new software, they are just calling the new one gta03 internally/by mistake/whatever. No one is abandoning gta02, there have never been any plans mentioned on the list to do so (not by any openmoko rep anyway), the focus has just changed to a stack that will work even better (FSO if you were wondering). The reason some people are getting pissed at you (and telling you to go buy an iphone) is because people have explained almost all of your complaints, in great detail, and until recently you did not seem to comprehend that. Criticism is good, very good, but if and only if it is constructive- that is key. If you complain about something that is already being worked on or that already has been fixed that is not constructive. Also remember that this is a public list in that anyone can post on here, not just representatives of openmoko, though they can and do as well. I'm going to provide you a list of places you should search and look through before complaining things do not work. The wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page -start here, enter queries into the search bar, lots of info The mailing lists: http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ -some posts have soooo much info on specific problems- but seeing as how you are posting here I'm sure you knew of those. The bug tacker: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ -here you will see if and when specific problems have been reported, when they will get fixed, and you can even report bugs there (i would strongly recommended reading through http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bug_Filing_Policy it will give you all the detail you need to filing a good *constructive* bug report). A good kernel (I haven't tried it myself but i've heard good things about it): http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ The kernel I use (though a touch dated now, still not bad): http://moko.mwester.net/ If you have not seen this already, I think you might enjoy it quite a bit: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes Last but not least, if you want a working phone above all else- incidentally what I also require- http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/ has some supposedly good qt extended images. Use in combo with Andy tracking and if that does not work mwester's kernel is good. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions - a detailed list of distro's To be clear, complain if there is a genuine problem- that is good, but check other places first to make sure it has not been acknowledged. (while i'm venting) One other thing I noticed about the thread that bothered me, someone had said something to the effect of: this thread would not exist if there were no problems, therefor the problems must exist. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question a very common logical fallacy. There are many things one can do with a freerunner, even with the constant changes that go on, I hope you find a combo of software that works for you and your needs. _______________________________________________ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support