Peter,

Why do you keep side-stepping my hardware messages?

Scott


On 10/31/05, Peter Zaitsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 20:20 +0200, Frimmel, Ivan (ISS South Africa)
> wrote:
> > For my own reference please ..
> >
> > The role of a firewall is supposed to be a filter rather than a router
> > or a front end load balancer? If there is this much inbound traffic
> > clearly other solutions would be appropriate? Or am I wrong?
>
> Right.  I'm not putting any routing load on it   (it just bridging
> WAN->LAN to be transparent) I also do not use load balancing function of
> pfsense at this point.
>
> The only extra use for it is traffic shaping and reporting.
>
> If you look generally I see there are a lot of functionality built in
> commercial ferewalls these days  - some routing, anti  virus, anti spam,
> some even have 16 port switch  build in.  :)
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Zaitsev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:02 PM
> > To: support@pfsense.com
> > Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Dump states featue
> >
> > On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 11:28 -0600, Fleming, John (ZeroChaos) wrote:
> > > FYI a PIX 520 (the 300 mhz version) can not handle 50,000 entries in
> > > the state table. It may on paper, but just because it has enough ram.
> > > I want to say it starts to have problems at about 35,000, but then
> > > again all my PIX firewalls were fully loaded with nics (6 10/100 I
> > think).
> >
> > Right. I guess number of states is not only issue - packet rate is other
> > thing - the "state" which is having packet passing by once per minute is
> > different than one which constantly needs attention.   Number of rules
> > is another ( I had single rule in this test)
> >
> > And I guess 300Mhz CPU is a lot different from 2.4Ghz I have :)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Kind of funny to boot a 520 and hear a video failure beep code.
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Zaitsev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:48 AM
> > > To: support@pfsense.com
> > > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Dump states featue
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 17:25 -0500, Scott Ullrich wrote:
> > > > If you want to push 50,000 states do you think this box is enough
> > > > juice?  With that amount of states it seems you want to use much
> > > > better hardware.
> > >
> > > Well...  I'm not going to have 50.000 states  - I'm just stress
> > > testing to see the limit.
> > >
> > > Now I see these number of states takes just few MB of memory - I never
> >
> > > got  amount of memory used over 15%
> > >
> > > CPU usage in my understanding should grow with number of packets and
> > > rules  - states are secondary. It must be implemented as hash table
> > > with semi-constant lookup time.
> > >
> > > And once again - my problem is not amount of packets I can pass at
> > > this point but the way it keeps up with high load.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also This is better hardware which is included in Most of Firewalls.
> > > For example SonicWall 2040 has  800Mhz  x86 CPU,  Cisco PIX -  300Mhz
> > > Celeron.   They might have some extra hardware offloading but also
> > > have extra features such as deep packet inspections etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/30/05, Peter Zaitsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 15:45 -0400, Scott Ullrich wrote:
> > > > > > If you don't mind me asking, what hardware are you running
> > > > > > pfsense
> > > on
> > > > > > for these tests?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is Dell PowerEdge 750  - 512Mb RAM,  Celeron 2.4Ghz
> > > > > 2 Intel 1Gbit NICs
> > > > >
> > > > > This seems to be much better than all firewalls  below 5K$ have :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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