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From: Paul Mansfield <it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com>
To: support@pfsense.com
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:05:45 +0000
Subject: Re: Fwd: [pfSense Support] Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 05.6/5.0] 
Re: [pfSense Support] blocking  Tor Networks

> On 06/01/10 16:46, Robert Mortimer wrote:
> >>> On 05/01/10 16:11, Luke Jaeger wrote:
> >>>> Has anyone had any success blocking Tor thru pfsense/squidguard?
> >> Some
> >>> of
> >>>> our savvier students are starting to use it to get around the
> >> content
> >>>> filters ...
> >>>
> >>> that's a classic case of having a "permit any + deny specific"
> >> policy.
> >>> You'll have to turn it round, make it "deny all + permit specific",
> >> set
> >>> up an http proxy with same policy and (don't allow CONNECT except
> >> under
> >>> fine control) and don't allow anything else out of your network
> >> except
> >>> that explicitly wanted.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You are wrong, "deny all + permit specific" is not enough for
> blocking
> >>
> >> TOR.
> >>
> > 
> > Depends how specific you are - if it looks like web access then it's
> going to be hard to be specific enough without being too specific
> 
> well, I did say to use a web proxy, which also has a whitelist of
> permitted sites, you literally only let your users access very specific
> services and hosts on the internet, and NOTHING else is allowed.
> 
> you're now going to say "but that's unmanageable", and I have two
> answers.
> 1/ security is a moving target and hard work, so if you can't trust
> your
> users you'll have to have the resources to manage their access
> effectively
> OR
> 2/ educate your users so that you can trust them and have suitable
> contracts and measures in place to punish them so that they will follow
> procedures
> 


A proxy server (squid, or another webfilter) cannot stop it (TOR 
clients), because it's unable to analyze TOR traffic (encrypted traffic).

I dont say that is impossible block it, but is not easy.




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