* Daniel had this to say on [24 Jun 2009, 13:33:49 -0700]: > Sadrul, > > I've got some more feedback for you. I ended up going back to centerim > for now, but I'd like to share my opinion so you have a users > perspective. > > * The lack of of a state of it remembering what messages were unread was > one of the big factors for me moving back to centerim. > > I think that could easily solved by a plugin or better yet, nativly which > just remembers which > windows were open last. Kind of like most web browsers remember what > tabs you had opened when you exit/crash. >
Indeed. Try out 'Session Save' from http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins, for example. > * getting around in the logs is annoying. Especially if chats are opened > and closed for brief periods of time. The excellent search > capabilities only make up for parts of it. > > I don't know if it shares the logging structure with pidgin, and that's > why it's done this way, but I think timestamps should be in epoch, and > the log could be a single file. I don't really see an advantage of using > multiple files for the logs. libpurple handles the logging, which is why these functionalities are similar in Pidgin and Finch. Plugins can implement different logging mechanisms, though. > * lack of challenge question > I got spam from a whole bunch of users just for the few days I used > finch. centerim uses challenge questions for users not on the list. > Example: What color is a banana? If the bot can't answer "yellow" I just > never see the messages. > Try out 'Bot Sentry' (third party plugin). > * I end up sending quite a bit of offline messages. However, when both > offline and online contacts are being displayed, there's no way to > sort the contacts so the online contacts are sorted first. > > online vs. offline status makes a huge difference. Have an option to > have alphabetical and still show offline users at the bottom. > > Coupled with this have an option to not show groups at all. Enable the 'Grouping' plugin shipped with Finch, and look under the 'Grouping' menu in the buddy list. > * Since I didn't want to see groups, I tried to figure out how to move a > user from one group to another, but I couldn't figure it out. Lacking > feature? > This is answered in the FAQ (http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Finch) > * when doing a search for a user in the contact list, getting that user > highlighted was painful. Just highlight the first user in the results > list automatically rather than have to hit arrow keys until something > at all gets highlighted. This was a bug fixed for 2.6.0. > Things I really liked: > * The scrolling and moving around in chats was really a welcome way > compared the really backwards way centerim does things. > > * tabbing through windows with active messages was very intuitive. > > > I didn't play around with scripting at all, so I can't give much > feedback on that. Looks like all plugins were .so's though. I didn't see > any bundled perl, or tcl ones. perl or tcl plugins written for libpurple will work in finch. It _might_ be possible to write finch-specific perl plugins that tweak the UI somehow using the unofficial perl bindings (http://git.perldition.org/?p=Gnt.git;a=summary) for libgnt (libgnt is the widget toolkit finch uses for the UI) Cheers, Sadrul > Anyway, I hope this helps for something :) > > -d > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 01:16:10PM -0400, Sadrul Habib Chowdhury wrote: > > * Daniel had this to say on [23 Jun 2009, 10:00:46 -0700]: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm currently trying out finch for the first time. I spent some time > > > last evening with it, and now I have some questions. I come from using > > > centerim (http://centerim.org), another console IM client. > > > > > > 1. Is it being actively developed? Are new features being added etc. > > > > > > > Yes! > > > > > 2. Are patches actively accepted for it by users? > > > > > > > Yes! If you are interested, you can write a patch for a bug, or a new > > feature you want, or for a ticket from this list: > > http://developer.pidgin.im/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&max=0&order=id&col=id&col=status&col=summary&milestone=Patches+welcome&owner=sadrul&row=description > > > > > 3. Can I rename a contact in the buddy list? Try as I may, I can't seem > > > to remember the ICQ UIN's for all my friends :) > > > > > > > Use the context menu (ctrl+x). > > > > > 4. I'm using osx, and I can't seem to get any of the windows to have > > > menues as invoked by Ctrl+o. What windows should I expect to have menus? > > > This is the same for F11. > > > > The buddylist and the conversation windows have menus. I don't know why > > Ctrl+o or F10 (those are the default key-bindings, not F11) don't work. > > Try binding some other key for the 'show-menu' action on windows (read > > the manpage to see how). > > > > > 5. Since I can't get window menues etc, I don't know if this is > > > possible, but how I can I access the logs for a chat window? > > > > Yes, from the menu of the window! If you have the chat in the buddylist, > > then also from its context menu. > > > > > > > 6. To whom, or where can I direct feature requests? > > > > > > > http://developer.pidgin.im/simpleticket > > > > > > > > Finch is a really nice console client. I'm looking forward to having > > > this issues resolved so I can start using it in ernest! > > > > Excellent! > > > > Sadrul > > -- > "Liberty cannot be caged into a charter or handed on ready-made to the next > generation. Each generation must recreate liberty for its own times. Whether > or not we establish freedom rests with ourselves." > -- Florence Ellinwood Allen (1884-1966) > Source: This Constitution of Ours, 1940 _______________________________________________ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? 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