On 25 Jan 2011, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:
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> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:03:11 -0700
> From: Martin Leese <martin.le...@stanfordalumni.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format
>       signals ?
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> Eero Aro <eero....@dlc.fi> wrote:
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>> J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote:
>>> in theory, you can. in practice, you can't, because you'd have to know
>>> what stereo technique was used during recording
>> 
>> Yes you can.
>> 
>> Just one word: Trifield.
> 
> Steven Dive <stevend...@mac.com> wrote:
> ...
>> I understand that Trifield is derived from the same groundwork as
>> Ambisonic, which also gives us ambi superstereo. It's a matter of
>> personal judgement, I think, but do you more knowledgeable theory
>> folks know if Trifield is therefore as flexible in its use as
>> superstereo?
> 
>> From memory, the theory behind Trifield
> assumes either Blumlein XY, or pan-potted
> multi-track mono.  Perhaps Geoffrey can chip
> in, or somebody can look at the paper
> (reference below).  Again from memory,
> SuperStereo assumes some sort of coincident
> mic technique so, in theory, is more flexible
> than Trifield.  I don't know of a reference for
> SuperStereo; this is a gap in Ambisonic
> theory.

It is not essential that the material is Blumlein or pan potted; that is just 
the way MAG handled a virtual 'test signal' in the paper; other recording 
techniques work ok too, but with varying results, much as they do over two 
speakers:-).

The main difference between 'Trifield' and 'Super-stereo' is that the former 
works over a number of speakers >2 across the front sector and the latter seeks 
to use an ambisonic array of speakers all around the listener to lock the front 
in place. There were a number of different alignments of 'Super-stereo' in 
various decoder implementations, but in essence they all sought to bend the 
'washing line' of the in-phase stereo image around the front arc with variable 
width, and anything substantially out of phase generally somewhere else, again 
rather dependent on the source material.

Geoffrey






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