On 16 Apr 2012, at 04:12, David Pickett <d...@fugato.com> wrote:

> At 19:44 15/04/2012, Len Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> A lot of stuff, with which I agree, plus:
> 
>> Ronald Antony talked about the cost of good speakers being a barrier: " ... 
>> and anything halfway acceptable is on a good sale at
>> least $250/speaker".
>> 
>> This has changed in the last ten years.  Good speakers today are acceptably 
>> inexpensive: around $75 to $175 per speaker channel.  Have a look at:
>> 
>> Pioneer SP-BS41-LR ($149.99/pair) - 
>> http://www.stereophile.com/content/pioneer-sp-bs41-lr-loudspeaker
>> Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 ($350/pair) - 
>> http://www.stereophile.com/content/wharfedale-diamond-101-loudspeaker
>> NHT SuperZero 2.0 ($198/pair) - 
>> http://www.stereophile.com/content/entry-level-10
>> Boston Acoustics A 25 ($299.98/pair) - 
>> http://www.stereophile.com/content/boston-acoustics-25-loudspeaker
>> PSB Alpha B1 ($279/pair) - 
>> http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/507psb/index.html
>> Infinity Primus P162 (or older P150 and P160, or newer P153 and P163) 
>> loudspeaker ($298/pair) 
>> -http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/1007inf/index.html
>> 
>> All of them have been reviewed on Stereophile's web site.  Most of the 
>> reviews include a nice set of measurements.
> 
> This is an impressive list.  Only one caveat: bookshelf speakers need to be 
> mounted on stands in order to be close to optimally placed, which increases 
> the system price and probably diminishes the Wife Acceptance Factor.  One 
> reason wny I went for the B&W DM603s.


Maybe I'm a bass fetishist, but as nice as many bookshelf speakers sound, even 
relatively cheap ones, they don't go low enough. By the time you add stands and 
a subwoofer, you're easily above the price range I said you have to consider.

Still, it's good things are coming down in price somewhat. My strategy for 
years was to hunt for good speakers being discontinued, and then snap them up 
at close-out sales. This works well, because speakers really don't get 
"outdated". Currently listening to music on a pair of AR90 from the early 80s 
which I refurbished, and they sound better than things that sell for well in 
the four digits range today, and are truly full-range. I wish I had a second 
pair, that would be a nice Ambi setup.

Ronald



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