On May 12, 2013, at 6:00 PM, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:

> From: revery <rev...@aircarving.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
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> Thank you all for your replies. I can see now that my questions was not 
> expressed at all well and somewhat sparsely, so thanks for the efforts made 
> to respond, they have been very helpful.

> Another aspect was the use of B-format based tools to create virtual mics 
> from Mid-Side based recording, even in the one-dimensional case, but 
> particularly for horizontal surround. I think there is some utility in this 
> angle.  
> Justin you mention the ease of creating 5.1 from mid-side - can you point at 
> tools and resources for this please? I would be most interested (I've looked 
> for this kind of tool but without much success).

I made my own spatialisation tools for MS (or any other co-incident stereo) 
using Max. I was using simple matrixing for generating speaker feeds. M+S = L 
and M-S = R and M = Centre
obviously, but if you use a "direction mixer" such as included in "Logic" which 
does M/S rotation, and then extract the M channel, you can get a speaker feed 
for any angle. Not terribly directional, but in large spaces I used up to 6 
channels effectively. Opposite speakers carry the same signal but out of phase, 
but if you use a non-symmetrical rig (like 5.1) then there are no speakers 
oppositie each other and it seems to work better. I seem to remember that Waves 
had plug ins to do this kind of thing too, including shuffling (?) Could 
introducing time delays with shuffling increase the sweet spot ? 

best, Justin
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