Many of us in The current discussion participated in an earlier discussion
about The importance of head tracking around 9 months ago, so that is more
or less understood :-)

Best regards
Bo-Erik
Den 6 dec 2015 19:48 skrev "Stefan Schreiber" <st...@mail.telepac.pt>:

> Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 06:06:08PM +0000, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> * The hedgehog is at least twenty times as big.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hardly...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Depends on which picture you look at, but OK, let's say ten times
>> (see Fig.12).
>>
>>
> No, Fig. 12 very obviously is something different.
>
> Since both microphones
>> layers are identical they are working as an A/B configuration also in the
>> vertical axis.
>>
>
>
> The supercardioid hedgehog is pictured on p. 19 and labelled as such. I
> wrote this, the dimensions are the ones I have cited.
>
>
>>
>>> The OZO's will
>>>> be omni over most of the frequency range and turn into
>>>> something like subcardioid only at very frequencies
>>>> (above 4 kHz or so).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And how can/could you know this?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Basic theory really.
>>
>> No matter what type of mic you place behind such a tiny hole, it will
>> pick up the pressure at that tiny hole. So apart from
>> diffraction effects the result will be omni.
>>
>>
>
> But the pressure will come from -90º to +90º, at least mainly? If so, the
> capsule "view" is 180º, not 360º. (Case as shield)
>
> It's not too difficult to compute the diffraction caused by
>> a solid sphere. You can see the resulting polar patterns for
>> 16 cm diameter sphere here:
>>
>> <http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/export/sphere16.pdf>
>>
>>
>
> Serious question: Is this not (more or less) a cardioid response?!
>
>
> Even if the OZO isn't exactly spherical, the results will
>> be similar.
>>
>> It's also interesting to look at the result of taking the
>> difference signal of two diametrically opposed capsules:
>>
>> <http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/export/sphere16-diff.pdf>
>>
>> This produces a usable fig-8 up to 1 kHz or so (with lower
>> frequencies requiring additional gain). Above that, chaos
>> takes over. Using more mics (e.g. the four frontal ones
>> minus the four at the back) will not improve things.
>>
>>
>
> But if it IS a hedgehog based mike, this is no issue.
>
> Which doesn't mean my theory is proven, but also no argument against
> here...   O:-)
>
> Probably it would be helpful to ask Nokia, in any case.
>
> Best,
>
> Stefan
>
> Note that such a fig-8 pattern is a component of any first
>> degree directional pattern and also of most higher degree
>> ones. If can't be obtained then the same is true of any
>> pattern of which it is a component.
>>
>> Caio,
>>
>>
>>
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