Thanks Peter. Yes i lived ten years in the Amazon making 3D audio recordings - humidity is indeed a problem. I've been looking at the Sonosax unit - looks amazing but I didnt realise it needed an addon. I'm probably not going to go for the ORTF right now as there's other things I want to use the budget for - but I like th principle and I tried to design my own thing like this once - I'm very much with Hynkook on these kinds of mic arrays - I believe he inspired this design.
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 20:20, peterson tooke <peterto...@mac.com> wrote: > Late to your question but of course a lot depends on how much can you > afford to spend… but as your Schoeps array is mighty pricey, that may not > be an issue. > Also > > As others have mentioned - at the lower end price-wise ( but not quality > wise) one option is the USA made Sound Devices MixPre 10ii. 8 very good > preamps with XLR inputs, 32 bit recording (the ii version), battery > powered, good headphone amp, solid build from a company renowned for its > quality, especially in the film industry. However I am not sure how many > channels can be ganged together on their MixPre10ii. My main quibble with > the MixPre series - especially in situations where there are no 2nd takes - > is that it records to a single SD card. While there is also a UBB thumb > drive backup option, not quite the same thing as having simultaneous > recording to another SD/CF card or internal SSD drive. > > They have a range of other recording / mixing devices with their new > Scorpio currently at the very top with SSD internal drive plus 2x SD card > recording…MUCH pricier but with many features you probably do not require… > so check them out here - https://www.sounddevices.com < > https://www.sounddevices.com/> > > Another choice, quite a bit more expensive, but considered to be among the > absolute best in the world for its preamp quality is the Swiss made Sonosax > SX-R4+, here: https://www.sonosax.ch/product/sx-r4p/ < > https://www.sonosax.ch/product/sx-r4p/>. You would need to attach their > add-on SX-AD+ in order to achieve the 8 preamps you require. > > You can find out a lot about what others in the recording ( mostly > classical ) world think of these products by searching around on Gearlsutz > / the remote possibilities forum. Of note is Tony Faulkner’s use of the > MixPre10 & Hudson Fair’s high praise of the SX-R4+, both highly esteemed > classical engineers… link here: > https://www.gearslutz.com/board/remote-possibilities-in-location-recording-amp-production/ > < > https://www.gearslutz.com/board/remote-possibilities-in-location-recording-amp-production/ > > > > All of this said - I know nothing about the Schoeps 3D ORTF array but I > noticed that it is ‘heated’ , a defense against humidity no doubt, > somethings you occsionally hear about Schoeps having problems with. > However, I have used them without issue in the Venezuelan jungle and caves > without issue, but never days on end in intense rain, something you might > expect in the Amazon. > > Still, if I was heading off to some remote rain forest / jungle for such a > big project I would have a back up plan - both recorder and mic array. A > lot of field recordists swear by the Sennheiser RF mics in a DMS array for > their resistance to humidity. And only 3 channels needed on the recorder, > for which there are a lot of solid options. Lots of talk about this setup > on Gearslutz as well. > > Good luck! > > > cheers, > > Peter > > > > On Oct 19, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Ha - theres no way I could afford it for myself its for a grant > application > > Im doing. My use for it would be in the Amazon making wildlife recordings > > for various purposes. > > I have also been interested in the Zyla 3rd order microphone don't know > if > > anyone's tried that ? Its certainly cheaper but its ambisonics so > slightly > > different > > > > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 20:57, Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> Can the 788 gang all preamps? Didn't think it could.. > >> > >> Plus one for the zoom f8/n. > >> Gangable, standard XLRs, good quality, affordable, small and versatile. > >> You can even sync and word clock a load together, for loads of inputs! > >> I have 3, and sync them all for 24 channels no problem. > >> But as John said... > >> If you are going to spend an basic annual salary on one set of mics, > whats > >> another 3 grand on another recorder and bespoke cables. > >> > >> Interested in what you are going to use it for Gus? > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, 20:25 John Leonard Main, <j...@johnleonard.uk> > wrote: > >> > >>> Even worse for connections, though: 4 XLRs and 4 TA3s - I had a six-way > >>> version made up for my 788 when I had a DPA 5001which was rather nice, > >> but > >>> not cheap. Those multi-pin Lemo connectors are expensive. > >>> > >>> But if you’re going for the Schoeps set up, what’s a couple of > thousand > >>> bucks or so extra on top for the recorder and breakout? I’m sure > someone > >>> will do you a really good deal on a package. I think you’re in the UK, > so > >>> try the nice people at Pink Noise, SoundKit or Everything Audio, or the > >>> BBList for a used recorder: there are a ton of them around at the > moment > >> as > >>> everyone is either upgrading in the hope of attracting work when it > comes > >>> back, or selling up because they can’t afford to keep waiting for the > >> work > >>> to come back. SD 788s are often available used at reasonable prices. Or > >> you > >>> could go for the Zoom F8, which is inexpensive and seems to have many > >> good > >>> reports. I’m using a MixPre 10Tii with my OctoMic and am pretty happy > >> with > >>> it. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>>> On 19 Oct 2020, at 19:04, Suso Ramallo <rama...@me.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sound Devices 788T > >>>> > >>>> Suso > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sursound mailing list > >>> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > >>> edit account or options, view archives and so on. > >>> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: < > >> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20201019/043ad358/attachment.htm > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sursound mailing list > >> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. > >> > > > > > > -- > > Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com > > Business website: www.magikdoor.net > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20201019/821eedda/attachment.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20201020/8f56fb0f/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com Business website: www.magikdoor.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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