Day Brown has often approached FCC 802.1 regulations on this list with
a "badges, we don't need no stinkin badges" attitude ...

Hmm, wonder how well that would go down if he ever really set up a
system and went on the air?

Bob George wrote:

> Day Brown wrote:
>
>>  [...] Drive up US 65 from Little Rock to Branson. Halfway up, when
>>  you get to Leslie, if you still have a signal, hit the 'scan'. If it
>>  is on the FM band, it'll pull in *1* station [...]
>
>
> Day, what does this have to do with unlicensed products that exist, and
> can communicate at 11Mbps+ at distances over 10 miles *without*
> infringing on licensed spectrum such as AM or FM?
>
>>  [...] But in the Ozarks, between the mountains and the fringe
>>  signals, just about everyone has switched from broadcast to satellite
>>  dish, and get the Little Rock stations off the dish.
>
>
> I expect it's because they get more variety, and quality is better. No
> big mystery! Then again, is satellite free? If not, it sort of argues
> against the backwoods innovator image. I'm more impressed with the
> Alaskan guys who rigged up those AM antennas that could suck in signals
> from the lower 48 states (yes, while still sticking to established rules.)
>
>>  No doubt, the station managers have figured this out, and dont get
>>  all worked up if their signal dont go so far any more.
>
>
> I'm sure they focus on profix in their market first. The distance the
> signal travels may help sell advertising time, but not as much as the
> size and demographics of the potential listener population.
>
>>  Do you spoze the car manufacturers are installing weaker FM tuners so
>>  as to encourage their customers to buy the new Satellite radio
>>  stuff? Wouldnt the cable and satellite outfits like to *disempower*
>>  the broadcast outlets?
>
>
> No. I doubt they car mfrs even talk to the satellite radio group, other
> than negotiating good deals on a bundle consumers seem willing to pay
> for. I'm sure cable and satellite groups WOULD like the broadcast
> market, but I can't follow your logic of that relating to the conspiracy
> of broadcasters to weaken their signals.
>
>>  If the stations have found it too expensive to hire a local disk
>>  jockey, and as we see, get their audio from a national feed, then
>>  they'd be interested in saving 50$ a day in the cost of wattage to
>>  the transmitter. But of course, they aint interested in talking about
>>  it.
>
>
> They save money by using a national feed, then need another $50 to
> reduce the potential size of their audience for the new feed? I'm lost!
>
>>  [...] The news from the 2.4 gig people about going 15 miles on 15
>>  miliwatts suggests that tuners might be designed for lower
>>  frequencies that could do the same on the FM band, where 250
>>  milliwatts is *already legal*.
>
>
> But still NARROWBAND, with all the inherent limitations! That's why
> unlicensed uses SPREAD SPECTRUM!
>
>>  [...] But now, back to the Yagi software. tell it how many watts, and
>>  what the db is of the antenna, and it'll tell you the range... using
>>  ordinary FM tuners, I'd expect an 8 foot boom with a tuned Yagi to
>>  go 15 miles to an appropriately aimed tuned Yagi for the receiver.
>
>
> So you go through all this effort and violations of regulation to
> achieve something already perfectly doable for a fraction of the price
> using existing, unlicensed technologies that are less susceptible to
> interference? Using much smaller antennas requiring a fraction of the
> space and support required by your 8 foot monster-dish? Why?
>
> That $70 Linksys device can be paired up with a $20 antenna and some
> additional cabling and mounting hardware to do what you're talking
> about. Now. Legally.
>
> - Bob
>
>

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