On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Bob George wrote:

> Day Brown wrote:
>
> > I dont think of folks trying to run a network with a SURVPC;
>
> Many do! I knew quite a few folks who used a 386 with Linux as a
> firewall and home server just fine. While an old kernel may be asking
> for trouble for such a device, a new (equally small) kernel should be as
> robust as any other modern configuration.
>
> > I expect folks want to continue to run text editors and small
> > business database tools, like what they've been doing in DOS. So...
> > how do the Linux tools stack up on a SURVPC with the DOS-OS/2 tools
> > folks have been using?
>
> Perhaps they have an ISP that requires PPP options not available under
> DOS or OS/2? Or they want spam filtering capabilities not available
> under either? If an old PC can be made to run current software, it makes
> a GREAT surv-gateway along the lines of what's been discussed on this
> list many times! Use the "high horsepower" machine for DOS, windows or
> whatever old software you love, while using a small, fast and modern
> Linux on the "old" box to talk to that ISP or do other things your
> beloved stuff can't.
>
> Not to mention that there a lot of people who'd love to run Linux but
> simply don't have the appropriate hardware. This may be a good solution
> for them. Not everybody with an old PC is necessarily unwilling to
> replace DOS with Linux.

There's also the newest of the old to answer to such needs.  Older Linux
kernels of the 2.x branch are still being developed.  Freesco - the
router/firewall I use - has recently come out with a new release based on
the latest 2.0.x kernel - 2.0.40.  I am still using the previous release,
that uses the 2.0.39 kernel, but plan on upgrading in the next few
months.  The system is rock solid and secure: last reboot was in April.
Here's an excerpt from the Freesco site on the new release: "Boot speed
has been improved dramaticly, so that 033 can run effectively on a 386 as
well as much quicker on any speed CPU. Shutdown speed has been increased
to around 5 to 10 seconds on any speed CPU. Your mileage may vary."  My
Freesco runs on a hotrod PPro 180 with 24MB RAM and 64MB CF disk/HD.
Freesco had backed off a bit on the minimum system requirements for the
last 0.3.2 release (which were previously: 386 DX with 6MB RAM), but it
looks like the 0.3.3 release could run on such a system.  It also needs to
be noted that, since Freesco is now undergoing very active development,
many add-on packages are being compiled for it against the 2.0.x kernels:
Apache, sendmail, Squid, ssh, vpn stuff, php - etc, etc.  Networking for
survpc's?  Looks like from 386 DX on up Freesco does about anything you'd
need.

James

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