Cees van de Griend wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Michael Hasenstein wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Cees van de Griend wrote:
> > > I prefer Qmail also...
> >
> > The reason it's not shipped is
> > ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/dist.html
> >
> > I know, there's even commercial software on the CD, but that's user
> > software, not system software.
>
> I looked at that page. So what's the problem?
>
> It said nowhere that you are not allowed to make a .rpm of it.
> You only have to keep the files in the 'qmail-standard' directories,
> i.e. under /var/qmail. I know that's not the standard, but the author
> insists (I must admit rather strongly) on it.
>
> So once again, what's the problem?
> You can find pre-compiled .rpm's on <http://www.qmail.org/>.
> You (SuSE) only have to include them on the CD and let the user decide
> what he/she finds more important, security and quick delivery or
> installing in the so called 'standard' directories.
First, I'm not sure what's being referred to here as "standard"
directories. SuSE, RedHat, Debian, et. al., each use their own
"default" directory structures, most of which are different that the one
that is used if I compile/install my own version of the package (take
Apache, for example -- SuSE and RH scatter the configuration files to
all ends of the earth, whereas the default installation puts everything
in /usr/local/apache).
Is Qmail not "free" just because SuSE can't make a custom .rpm of it
which puts the configuration files in seven million different places
instead of /var/qmail? Putting everyting in /var/qmail makes a whole
boatload more sense to me than does to modify it -- I have never seen a
problem with qmail's dir structure. Can someone from SuSE elaborate on
just why exactly "we were not allowed to put it on CD" (Lenz Grimmer)?
If it is a matter of it not being "free," KDE has been on the distro
since long before qt was ever made semi-open-source, and IMO, qmail is
still a lot more "free" than is qt. I think that the user should have
the option on whether he wants qmail, sendmail, postfix, or another MTA,
not being forced to install sendmail or nothing by default, downloading
qmail, etc., etc...
Now, of course, I realize that there can only be some 650 MB worth of
packages placed on the CD-ROM, but shouldn't the second most popular and
the most secure (fact, not my opinion...) MTA be included before some of
these other lesser-known packages?
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