At 05:09 PM 4/23/1999 -1000, you wrote:
>Samy Elashmawy wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks, Hope some of you can help me out here.
>> I have dabbled in programing a bit , started out with Clarion for dos ,
>> worked a little with clipper and am now currently using Borlands Delphi.
>> I am now looking to slowly move to linux . I have gotten really tired of
>> reloading windows and dealing with the "driver shuffle" and "plug and play"
>> that every few months changes every thing around on you.
>> My level of programing is somewhere between novice and intermediate. For
>> what thats worth. I am real short on time , but ofton play at home . In
>> other words , I really don't want to learn a whole lot of languages , but
>> would rather put my time into one language that can handle what I want
to do.
>> SO IF YOU HAD ONLY ONE WHICH WOULD IT BE ?
>> JAVA - tCL/Tkl - Perl  or Other??

>Who is your intended audience?  Almost all Linux systems
>have Tcl/Tk, but not all have Java.  Windows can run Java
>applets (write your app w/o a main() and a browser will
>run it - this is a simplification).
        
        My audience , OK , I am involved in a retial store with 20 - 25 employees
, plan on 5 networked pc ,      linux preferably , as its much more stable ,
and it is conductive to "set and forget" stability .

        on the front burner are customer database , atreration tracking app , and
some sort of custom     supplier/leads type of cantackt manager . I am hoping
to find some accounting software to handlw the  acts payable and checking
account type application for the back office.

        Most likley 2-3 terminals for back office and two to three terminals
aoround the sales floor. 

>> What libs / Third Party variety extensions-addins / reporting tools /
>> database tools are there for your tool of choice ??
>SpecTcl - allows you to make the GUI, then save it in either
>Java or Tcl/Tk code.

        This sounds interesting. I have been leaning to JAva as its cross platform
and will allow me to slowly     move to linux using dual boot cpus

        Do you have more info , is tcl a stronly typed , os soft like perl ? is
gui built in or used via third  party addins or madules ??

>> What will work with SQL ie postgres ect...
>
>Using jdbc drivers may be a bit of effort, but a Tcl
>program can run your SQL queries in a shell.

        Are there tcl modules for working with postgres ?? Why is the jdbc driver
an effort to set up ? 

>> Is it RAD ??
>
>> Why have you choosen it ??
>
>Since I don't give two beans about Windows users, so I'm developing
>using Tcl.  If a Windows user wants to use my program, they
>can download winTcl80 also.  If I were doing this to make money,
>my tune would be much different.

how conuctive to buisines programing is tcl , do you find yourself hitting
the "wall"  , is it cleaner then vb , how does it compare to something like
pascal or Java ??

>> Like I said , I want to do database apps and general business programing.
>> Not games ect...
>
>My first Tcl app was an automated data retriever that takes
>data out of a web page and saves it on disk.  Took me 3 hours
>to develop (while learning the language).  Took me 30 hours
>to write the same thing in MS Visual Basic.

Whoooow. That easy , your not kidding are you ? Why did it take so long in
VB (Sory never used vb)

>Again - look at your audience and make it easiest for them.
>
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