The following is my response to the conversation about human nature and 
corporate/capitalist culture that arose in response to the animation "A very 
short history of man's relationship with the natural world" at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU&feature=player_embedded.

As a biologist, I believe that we and all our living kin evolved through happy 
accident in an indifferent universe. This "accident" is actually a creative and 
selective process that unfolded across a gazillion independent organismal 
lineages in parallel, making all extant organisms the incredibly unlikely and 
intricately functional beings that they are. Some of those lines generated 
"sociality", a multiplicity of sort-of-related themes that encompass empathy, 
non-selfish motivation and compassion, the 'love' of family and community, and 
even a capacity to revere and protect at least some other life forms. In a 
broad sense, this sociality encompasses even 'simple' multicellularity, where 
many 'individuals' (cells) give up their rights to progeny to serve the greater 
mission. This whole 'accident' of biological evolution is the only thing in my 
imagination that might deserve to wear the moniker 'GOD', aside from the 
unfathomable creation of the whole damn universe. As human beings, we are part 
of it. Our selfish drives for preservation and even control over our neighbors 
is as natural, and even more primordial, than our social inclinations. That 
does not make us uniquely ugly in an otherwise glorious universe. But it does 
provide something we need to be aware of and deliberately rein in as we 
recognize the finite bounds of our planet, and proceed to attempt the almost 
godly act of reinvention of our relationship to each other and our biosphere 
that we now have the opportunity to go for. Let's give it our best shot!

David

On May 30, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Marie Terlizzi wrote:

I'm not sure if that is 100% true. Think of Easter Island. Think of the 
megafauna that once roamed the Americas. Think of the early deforestation in 
many parts of Europe, including ancient Greece.

The view that the natural world is just a collection of resources for us to 
"develop" and convert into "wealth"and has no other value beyond what it can 
provide us with predates the industrial revolution, capitalism and large 
corporations. So do greed, selfishness and lack of concern and empathy for  
Corporate capitalism and modern technology have merely allowed us to 
exploit/destroy the natural world more rapidly, efficiently and extensively.

The video reminded me of something I became aware of during a visit to Assisi, 
Italy in the late 1970s. The local people were still shooting songbirds to eat. 
In the hometown of St. Francis who supposedly preached to the birds and 
considered all living things to be brothers and sisters! How insensitive do you 
have to be to do this? No one was starving in Assisi, and there is little meat 
on a songbird anyway. No doubt, songbirds were considered some kind of 
delicacy. All they saw in the birds was something to kill and smack their lips 
over. It reminds me of the fellow in the video grabbing the two snakes and 
making boots out of them. That's all he saw. (Note: Hunting of songbirds around 
Assissi was finally banned in 1984, after an outcry started by an American 
environmentalist who visited there in 1982)

One of my favorite quotes, supposedly from the writer and naturalist Joseph 
Wood Krutch (1893-1970)

“If people destroy something replaceable made by mankind, they are called 
vandals; if they destroy something irreplaceable made by God, they are called 
developers.”



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Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 4:42 PM
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Subject: Re:[sustainable_tompkins-l] A very short history

The video is more accurately titled a very short history of corporate 
capitalist predatory man's relationship with the natural world.

For a very different perspective, see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKmRpWdZYm4
Roving With Lalah: Sweet Belfield


What about the chapter where he learns from his mistakes? Will there be tine? 
It's a cliff hanger! Stick around for some real entertainment!
David

I thought there were plenty of aesthetics. Most of the fine arts were there: 
classical music as the score (and played on a FINE piano); baroque furniture; 
FINE clothes (put me in mind of Liberace), and all that printed literature. 
Fine food? Not so much.

As David noted, there were no social dimensions visible; just implied by the 
industrial goods (food and otherwise).

But I think all that is to the creator's point (cowboy culture of 
individualism), so I don't think it needs modification.

Margaret


On May 28, 2013, at 1:45 PM, David Peter McCobb wrote:

That's not the whole story. It leaves out both the social and the aesthetic 
dimensions of the starring species. Needs modification.
Phew.
;)
On May 28, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Marie Terlizzi wrote:

This cartoon says it ALL in three minutes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU&feature=player_embedded<http://www.youtube.com/embed/WfGMYdalClU>



And this comment below

Everyone turned moralist and defender of the planet now, but in five minutes 
you will be keep moving your life as if nothing was happening. Sad but true.





David P. McCobb, Ph.D.
Neurobiology and Behavior
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Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
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