Ok following Eds very wise advice, Ive put our Sun in the background

http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/biodleaf.jpg
Heres another small change to the format

http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/biodsun.jpg

Let me know.
Ian
























----- Original Message -----
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> I'd like to see a couple of different options to compare elements.
>
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> From: "ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Thanks Ed
> > I'll see what i can do.
> > Ian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. - E. Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] an international biod logo?
> >
> >
> > > Ian - I quite like it. Constructive criticism, I guess, would include
> that
> > > there is no representation of the sun's influence as the actual source
> of
> > > energy that is simply "carried"
> > > by plants, plant oils, biodiesel. You can produce biodiesel without
> soil,
> > > but not without sun.
> > >
> > > When I was presenting some information to a group of fellow
> environmental
> > > studies people, I mentioned that in the last year, an accomplishment
was
> > > that I had built a solar-powered car for in the hundreds of dollars.
> > >
> > > Of course, they wanted to know how long the extension cord was, etc.
;-)
> > >
> > > It was a diesel on vegetable oil.
> > >
> > > But, really what is the difference between a PV panel and a plant oil?
> > > The difference is that plant oil is nature's method of collecting the
> > sun's
> > > energy and storing it in an energy-dense, safe, convenient and easy to
> use
> > > form; and the PV panel requires human organization of matter to
> accomplish
> > a
> > > similar end result but with greater cost and less efficiency and less
> > > sustainably (well, let the arguments fly, but that's a rough sketch).
> > >
> > > So, I think we need to focus more on the sun as the real provider of
> > energy
> > > in the system and not the (just) the earth.
> > >
> > > Any way to incorporate that into your ideas for the logo would be
nice.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Ed B.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:15 AM
> > > Subject: [biofuel] an international biod logo?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > > This came into my head yesterday so I made a quick sketch.
> > > > If anyone disagrees to its format, please let me know. If the idea
> dosnt
> > > clash with anyone elses and critical acclaim is not given, well I'll
> just
> > > use it myself
> > > > Thanks all.
> > > > Heres the link http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/Biodlog1.jpg
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > > >
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