In France custom distillers will render fruit or whatever a farmer has that may be too far along and turn it into something else of value. In Britain or the US you pour spoiled jam or a corn chip processor pours liquid down drain as it isn't worth the hassle dealing with the bureaucraps.
We could take a lesson from the French. Kirk -----Original Message----- From: ronald miller sr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:36 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up And all of these years I thought we were a progressive thinking country. Maybe it's because I don't drink is why I don't understand. I just want to make fuel for my car. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:14 PM Subject: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up > The text after my "signature" is taken directly off a US Dept. of the > Treasury, BATF guide sheet for alcohol fuel plants. Alcohol fuel plants > generally fall under "small," "medium" and "large." > > There are other formalities for Specially Denatured Spirits (SDS) users, > alcohol fuel producers (small farm "plants," etc.) and other alcohol use > variations. Alcohol fuel producers start off with form 5110.74. But, as with > all paperwork, getting the form is the simple part. > > Success in obtaining a permit includes other responsibilities, such as > securing storage facilities to prevent unauthorized entry. Depending upon > production capacity, this could be construed to include razor wire, security > personnel, etc. > > BATF also secures the right to inspect facilities, records and reports > during normal business hours, as well as acquisition of samples of products > to ensure compliance with law and regulations. > > Just in case anyone wishes to know. > > Todd > Appal Energy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ........................................ > DISTILLED SPIRITS PLANT - INDUSTRIAL INFORMATION > > This refers to your request for forms and information regarding the > establishment of a plant to produce industrial alcohol. > > In order to establish such a plant, you must comply with all the > requirements of Part 19, Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations as follows: > > 1) Register your plant on Form 5110.41 (see 27 CFR 19.151 and 19.152). > > 2) Make application on Form 5110.25 for an operating permit (see 19.157 and > 19.158). > > 3) File bond on Form 5110.56 (see Subpart H of Part 19). No photocopies or > faxed copies of this form, please! > > 4) File Form 5000.29, Environmental Information > > 5) File Form 5000.30, Supplemental Water Quality Considerations. > > 6) File Form 5000.9, Personnel Questionnaire, for each officer, director and > stockholder owning ten percent or more of the voting stock of the > corporation. > > 7) Furnish signature authority for each individual signing documents > submitted to this Bureau. Either Form 5000.8, Power of Attorney, or Form > 5100.1, Signing Authority for Corporate Officials, may be used for this > purpose. However, in lieu of these forms, a resolution by the Board of > Directors granting signature authorization may be submitted. > > 8) File application on Form 5100.16, to receive spirits by transfer in bond > (see 19.506). An application is required for each distilled spirits plant > transferring spirits. > > 9) If any trade names are to be used, submit evidence of State registration. > .................................................. > > > >http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#alcohol > > > > > > > BTW, the form you want is 5110.74 > > > > Sec. 19.910 Application for permit required. > > Any person wishing to establish an alcohol fuel plant shall first make > > application for and obtain an alcohol fuel producer's permit. The > > application for a permit will be on Form 5110.74. The application, in > > duplicate, will be submitted to the regional director (compliance). > > The description of stills on the approved application constitutes > > registration of stills as required by 27 CFR 196.45. Alcohol fuel > > producers' permits are continuing unless automatically terminated > > under Sec. 19.920, suspended or revoked as provided in Sec. 19.950, > > or voluntarily surrendered. (Sec. 201, Pub. L. 85-859, 72 Stat. 1355, as > > amended (26 U.S.C. 5179); Sec. 232, Pub. L. 96-223, 94 Stat. 278 > > (26 U.S.C. 5181)) This was last updated on September 17, 1999. > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! 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