In France custom distillers will render fruit or whatever  a farmer has that
may be too far along and turn it into something else of value. In Britain or
the US you pour spoiled jam or a corn chip processor pours liquid down drain
as it isn't worth the hassle dealing with the bureaucraps.

We could take a lesson from the French.

Kirk

-----Original Message-----
From: ronald miller sr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:36 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still
start-up


And all of these years I thought we were a progressive thinking country.
Maybe it's because I don't drink is why I don't understand. I just want to
make fuel for my car.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:14 PM
Subject: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up


> The text after my "signature" is taken directly off a US Dept. of the
> Treasury, BATF guide sheet for alcohol fuel plants. Alcohol fuel plants
> generally fall under "small," "medium" and "large."
>
> There are other formalities for Specially Denatured Spirits (SDS) users,
> alcohol fuel producers (small farm "plants," etc.) and other alcohol use
> variations. Alcohol fuel producers start off with form 5110.74. But, as
with
> all paperwork, getting the form is the simple part.
>
> Success in obtaining a permit includes other responsibilities, such as
> securing storage facilities to prevent unauthorized entry. Depending upon
> production capacity, this could be construed to include razor wire,
security
> personnel, etc.
>
> BATF also secures the right to inspect facilities, records and reports
> during normal business hours, as well as acquisition of samples of
products
> to ensure compliance with law and regulations.
>
> Just in case anyone wishes to know.
>
> Todd
> Appal Energy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ........................................
> DISTILLED SPIRITS PLANT - INDUSTRIAL INFORMATION
>
> This refers to your request for forms and information regarding the
> establishment of a plant to produce industrial alcohol.
>
> In order to establish such a plant, you must comply with all the
> requirements of Part 19, Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations as follows:
>
> 1) Register your plant on Form 5110.41 (see 27 CFR 19.151 and 19.152).
>
> 2) Make application on Form 5110.25 for an operating permit (see 19.157
and
> 19.158).
>
> 3) File bond on Form 5110.56 (see Subpart H of Part 19). No photocopies or
> faxed copies of this form, please!
>
> 4) File Form 5000.29, Environmental Information
>
> 5) File Form 5000.30, Supplemental Water Quality Considerations.
>
> 6) File Form 5000.9, Personnel Questionnaire, for each officer, director
and
> stockholder owning ten percent or more of the voting stock of the
> corporation.
>
> 7) Furnish signature authority for each individual signing documents
> submitted to this Bureau. Either Form 5000.8, Power of Attorney, or Form
> 5100.1, Signing Authority for Corporate Officials, may be used for this
> purpose. However, in lieu of these forms, a resolution by the Board of
> Directors granting signature authorization may be submitted.
>
> 8) File application on Form 5100.16, to receive spirits by transfer in
bond
> (see 19.506). An application is required for each distilled spirits plant
> transferring spirits.
>
> 9) If any trade names are to be used, submit evidence of State
registration.
> ..................................................
>
> > >http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#alcohol
> > >
> >
> > BTW, the form you want is 5110.74
> >
> > Sec. 19.910 Application for permit required.
> > Any person wishing to establish an alcohol fuel plant shall first make
> > application for and obtain an alcohol fuel producer's permit. The
> > application for a permit will be on Form 5110.74. The application, in
> > duplicate, will be submitted to the regional director (compliance).
> > The description of stills on the approved application constitutes
> > registration of stills as required by 27 CFR 196.45. Alcohol fuel
> > producers' permits are continuing unless automatically terminated
> > under Sec. 19.920, suspended or revoked as provided in Sec. 19.950,
> > or voluntarily surrendered. (Sec. 201, Pub. L. 85-859, 72 Stat. 1355, as
> > amended (26 U.S.C. 5179); Sec. 232, Pub. L. 96-223, 94 Stat. 278
> > (26 U.S.C. 5181)) This was last updated on September 17, 1999.
> >
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