I wait with baited breath (now where did those cats some from?) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm
Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question > Steve when you see hoe the lash boiler works you will wonder why didnt you do > this with a pickup truck > and steamengine like stanley did. Ans to dangerous > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question > Date: 9/18/2001 6:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve spence) > Reply-to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > why not batteries? > or use the grid as your battery? > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > we borrow it from our children. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Layton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question > > > > In a thermodynamic sense: yes, a net loss. > > However, consider that the input solar energy is essentially free. If > that > > energy is serving no other rational purpose (i.e., not being captured as > > some other usable form) then, I believe, it is better to store the energy > as > > gaseous hydrogen than not at all. > > > > I'm not even going to go into all the problems that gaseous hydrogen > > presents. Yikes! > > > > > > > > > > it takes more energy to free the hydrogen than you get back. net loss. > > > > Steve Spence > > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > > Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > > we borrow it from our children. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question > > > > > > > the electrolysis of water using solar cells should get you started just > be > > > extreamly careful > > > > > > ========Original Message======== > > > Subj: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question > > > Date: 9/14/2001 5:24:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve W) > > > Reply-to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Hello, > > > I am aware that hydrogen combines with oxygen > > > to make water and give off some electricity but > > > where does all this hydrogen come from that we > > > plan to use? I know there is alot out there but > > > it is mostly bound up in water or some other > > > chemical isn't it? It takes energy to free this > > > hydrogen. How much energy does it take and where > > > is this energy going to come from? Will fuel > > > cells really save any greenhouse gases or will a > > > bunch of coal need to be burned to free up the > > > hydrogen? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Steve > > > > > > ===== > > > Steve > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! 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