A fellow who lives about 15 miles from me is selling range beef over the internet. Rocky Ridge Beef is the outfit. I googled it but all I found was a restaurant that uses his beef http://www.bertanderniesofhelena.com/menuspage3.htm If anyone is interested I'll look him up and ask him what his contact info is. I bought 50 pounds of hamburger from him as it was nice and lean. He ships a lot to New York - Jersey area.
Kirk -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:38 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Organic Farming and Ethanol Energy Ratios >Try and buy real food at the store that is not already processed? I now >shop at a health food store, because I can't find real food in the >markets. Things like bran to make muffins. > I'm thankful to live in a civilization making its growing pain efforts to become modern, and that to some extent food in general is dramatically easier for me to work for and acquire than for some of my ancestors. That said, I certainly quite strongly agree that a big trend seems to be a rather bizarre inability to identify something called "food" amongst the offerings at the nice shiny grocery chains down the street. Oh, it's there, but it's a bit of a brain-twister at times to separate the food from the High Fructose Corn Syrup and God-Knows-What-All. But I have some other food distributor choices in this neighborhood, and I'm glad of it. The way you put it reminded me of something my stepmother said when I visited my family in NYC a few months ago: in her opinion, it wasn't as easy as she had thought it would be to find a good affordable kosher butcher that she really liked. She had just moved to that area and she takes a lot of time and trouble in her food preparation and has tended to really dig in and find a good solid source for certain foods. I don't think it's a question of keeping strict kosher (she's not orthodox) but of finding a butcher whose food is consistently clean, fresh, and consistently prepared according to rules that seem to make more sense than not. Now of course, here we are three thousand years later and if nutrition and health are the issues and not satisfying a book or an older view of God, then one could do better than the laws of Kosher, but it is interesting to note for a second that it's perhaps the case that mixed in with the primitive laws of kosher, a good butcher in being consistent and conscientious to his rules, probably puts forth meat that one can trust as much as or more than the next guy's. While it is not a big mission for me to stick to organic food, and I'm not a vegetarian, one thing I have been wondering about is finding a way to consume meat where the animals have not been grossly mistreated. I wonder if there's a standard for a certain level of raising them, certain rules as to their confinement, etc. So many of the health food efforts seem to coincide with vegetarian, so I haven't run across this. I also haven't run across many restauraunts (around here in my neighborhood) exploring these issues. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
