Kim writes:

>  Is anyone else interested in this kind of debate?

Definitely! Is this the right place?

>Is it better to use the chemicals and the bleach or the steam
>cleaners?  I know chlorine is feminizing the environment
>and is real bad for a septic system [my grey water] and I
>imagine the rest of the antibacterial cleaners are about the
>same.  So is using electricity bad  for the environment.

Electricity is only bad if it's made in ways that pollute more
than the chemical alternatives. But then chemicals are not all
bad either. Chlorine compounds can form dioxins when burned,
but hypochlorites (bleaches) in certain applications simply
revert to NaCl and oxygen. Usually they revert to NaOH and
chlorine, which, as you say, is bad.

>Or:  Is it better to rescue wood from brush piles that were to
>be burned, then burn it in a HAHSA and add a little electricity
>in the form of recirculating pumps and use it for heat and hot
>water, or let the piles be burned and use propane to heat?


That one's easy. Burn the wood for heat. It's not a tree anymore,
so it's doomed to become CO2 one way or another. May as well get
value out of it, and use the propane for something (like a car) that
needs a mobile fuel. Global warming is a much greater threat now
than smog.

I'll submit my own fuel to the fire here :-)  PAPER or PLASTIC?
(bags, that is).....

I vote for plastic, using this logic -- polyethylene is nearly as
good a carbon sink as petroleum. If it gets recycled, great. If it
gets buried in a landfill, it sequesters carbon there for millions
of years, just like if the petroleum was left in the ground. The
only negatives are if it ends up getting burned, and also the energy
and pollution produced in its refinement. Chopping down the tree
not only removes the sequestering ability of the tree, but also
initiates a relatively rapid conversion into CO2 one way or another.
CO2 (and overpopulation) are the world's worst problems now.

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