Sorry Bill,
If I confused you with an other Bill Clark (William Clark) that is well known within the field of energy in constructions, I am sorry. I do not know why, probably that I had a misconception way back, when I saw you on the list and read something from you. I have seen several so called investigations, pointing in all kind of directions, but I have yet to see a serious evaluation. Almost everybody have accused each other at one occasion or an other. You had several more or less political investigations, by at lot of people that do not know much about the issues. I agree with the analysis who says that it is unlikely that any corporation will manipulate deliveries, during times that they have the highest profitability. This is the pure profits they are playing with, as anyone familiar with business know. Please read what we are saying about peak demands. The situation and how it develops, have been predicted for many years. You cannot predict fraud or similar acts from individual entities. It is many accusations and some of them are definitely not correct. That does not say, that in a situation of opportunity, someone can do something illegal, but this is the symptom of the problem not the cause. The government, elected by the public, have for many years neglected the warnings and what could be done to prevent it (14 years). This we know for sure and can prove. So are they, "Determining the truth is the responsibility of government agencies elected by the public to do that job", going to do this? As I see it, you are confident in that the they will investigate themselves in a truthful way and find themselves guilty of negligence. Maybe they can find someone who did something illegal to share the responsibility with and even to blame. We can show that the current situation was predicted, because the material have been published in the public domain many times and from many sources during the last 14 years. Again, please read http://california.energy.saving.nu/ Hakan At 01:12 PM 9/28/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hakan, > >I'm not exactly sure if I'm the person you think I am. If you know me from >the last several months on this list then I, at least, am the right person >to address. > >I truly don't know much about the power supply problems in California. I >didn't mean to dispute any of your statements on that account. I only meant >to demonstrate that there are examples of why corporations manipulate >pricing. If what is being said in California is true, then those involved >have committed fraud and what amounts to price gouging. Both the government >and the public have very limited patience for those practices when it comes >to what are considered necessities. > >I am not dismissing the possibility that no one committed any wrong doing. >Nor am I dismissing the possibility that corporate fraud could be a real >issue. Determining the truth is the responsibility of government agencies >elected by the public to do that job. > > I welcome your input on this subject and am willing to accept much of your >arguments as truth, however, to suggest that there is no incentive for >corporations to commit fraud in the name of profits is not facing up to the >facts as revealed by recent events. Also, suggesting that California utility >providers would be unable to raise profits for each watt sold by improper >business practices is not economically sound ( generalizing about the nature >of earlier discussion regarding supply and demand in the utility industry). > >While your knowledge about power production and problems in California may >be unimpeachable, your knowledge about exactly what occurred last summer can >not be as extensive as those whose job it is to investigate. > >Bill C. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 2:53 AM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] FW: The Great Power-Shortage Myth > > > > > > Bill, > > > > If you are the Bill Clark that I thought you are, you probably know more > > than most people about this problem. > > > > It is now 14 years ago, that we first got involved with the California >peak > > demand problem. This was before it got a problem of the magnitude that it > > is today. On our site http://energysavingnow.com/ we have dedicated a lot > > of material to the California peak demand problem. > > > > http://california.energy.saving.nu/ > > > > It is mainly an engineering problem and you cannot really blame the energy > > companies for creating the problem. You might be successful in arguing the > > they try to make the most out of the problem, which i quite normal in a > > free capitalistic society and we do not want it in any other way. > > > > Please read what I wrote before and what is published on our site. I am >not > > very happy with the behavior of the energy companies and not a big > > supporter of them, but I am afraid that in this case it is barking at the > > wrong tree. > > > > We are claiming that we understand peak demand problems and we are on this > > list. Before you say that we are wrong, please read our material >carefully. > > > > Hakan > > > > > > At 09:11 PM 9/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > >Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:26 PM > > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] FW: The Great Power-Shortage Myth > > > > > >Two comments: > > > > > >1. Enron- traded power through numerous paper corporations and in doing >so > > >falsely inflated the price of deregulated power. Corporate morality has a > > >pretty thick layer of tarnish on it these days. > > > > > >2. Power companies build infrastructure to meet peak demand. Demand > > >exceeding this amount creates competition for wattage. Resulting higher > > >prices add nothing to the cost of production. Artificially created >shortages > > >would increase the profit margin on all watts sold. Motive for this >behavior > > >is apparent. > > > > > >I do not claim to know what the details of California's power problems >are, > > >but I bet the people investigating know more about it than anyone on this > > >list. > > > > > >Bill C. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
