Very well said, Hakan! And yes, I did know that Motie was talking of his own forest and experience, but no, I didn't catch Keith's note with the info on it from Wilderness Society. Being on the Digest version, I sometimes read things in reverse order.. :-)
I, too, have often wondered if humans will survive either a) our own actions, and/or b) nature's revenge... I agree especially with your sentiment: > Personally I prefer a managed sustainable world, even > if it is no chance that I will ever see it. Thanks, Hakan! (and Keith and Motie, too!) -Joel R. Hakan wrote: > -----Original Message----- > Message: 25 > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 05:26:39 +0100 > From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Last word on forests > > > Dear Joel, > > This information was provided earlier by Keith as an argument > on this issues. Since it is the round for last word, I like to > clarify my understanding of the discussion. > > Motie who is deeply involved with forest management in the area > where he lives, have some local and particular problems. This > has to do with how his particular forest works and how different > interest groups acts with regards to his forest. When I say his > forest, I mean the forest that he has interest in. Motie made it > clear from the outset of the discussion, that he was talking > about his forest and his opinion of what happened there. > > Discussing the issue from the outside, made me bringing up > several points about forest management that was within my > knowledge and experiences. During this exchange, I became > fully convinced that Motie knew very well what he talked about > and he was a responsible and caring representative for the > forest management interests in his forest. I did of course not > know his forest and my arguments and convictions had in this > case to be of general nature. > > Keith who is a knowledgeable man in this field, picked up on > the global aspect, but not without first recognizing Motie's > competence and that he was the best one to talk for his > forest. > > Said this, I like to add the following last words, > > Our nature is a sensitive environment that through millions > of years developed a balance between the species. When > some species started to dominate to a level that was not > sustainable, things happened on both short and long term > that corrected it. We now have a specie that are growing > out of proportion, we call them humans and on short term the > nature already started to try to apply corrections, long term > nature will succeed. > > The impact of the humans is severe and during a very short > time period they have caused enormous damages. Its survival > will be totally dependent on responsible and sustainable > management of nature. If we leave the solutions to nature, > it will be very painful for the future humans that have to take > the consequences of todays excesses. > > The environmentalist that wants to leave things only to > nature, must also belive in the natural thinning of the human > population. They should fight against medicines, transport, > feeding starving people and all the other things that work > against the natural control of the human population. > > Personally I prefer a managed sustainable world, even > if it is no chance that I will ever see it. But we all have to > work against this goal and show some kind of responsibility > in trying to find a comfortable level for future humans or at least > give them a chance to survive. > > Hakan > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
