the use of a generator to run electric stoves is very expensive better to use propane same for driers and if you capture the heat from gen set use hydronics or a small heat pump to move the heat , look up polarpowerinc.com they have a bunch of explaining on this sort of thing and they have small packaged co gen units as well. Robert
malcolm.scott wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:37 AM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] bio to grid > > > > >>I am purchasing a homestead in Oregon and looked into generating my own >>electrical requirements using the power grid for storage and selling >> >> >excess > > >>of up to the limit of 25KW. I would be using waste vegitable cooking oil >>or waste engine crankcase oil as a form of recycling. Besides generating >>electrical needs would be space heating and vehicle operations be it >>electrical or WVO (ECO is too polluting). But, Oregon utility companies >> >> >do > > >>not want the hassle of incompent (unsafe) energy providers nor the >>competition in general. The area in Oregon turned out to have only a buy >>rate of .02c USA while maintaining a 10.00/month minimum charge. First, >>that means I am required to run my plant constantly at 0.7KW feeding the >>grid JUST TO PAY the minimum meter reading charges. Then the .02c is >>ridiculous for all the extra equipment requirements EXCEPT if I was aiming >>at a net zero result with the grid minus that 0.7KW loss (free energy to >>utilities). I do not know about the experiences of others; but for me, I >>am configuring to have a smaller genset (5-8KW vs 25-30KW) and a complete >>disconnect from the grid (once reliability established). Granted, I will >>need to have a "small" 240VDC battery bank for the 240 circuits used in >> >> >the > > >>house being usually heating elements. This bank will then be charged by >>the constant running genset which will ramp up to full output (say over a >>10 second period) to feed those stove, oven, water heater, clothes dryer, >>furnace, etc. which exist. I may convert space heating from electrical to >>biofuel energy furnaces. Around Oregon, it appears powergrid connected >>co-generation biofuel driven country residential systems is still not >>viable. At least my cost of 8c/KWH utility charges plus staying "finally" >>warm to my heart content AND running my cars/trucks/tractors/etc. with >>essentially free fuel will be realized. Maybe I can get a neighbor to use >>recycled bio waste with me by hooking into my system and get off the grid >>themselves will serve to give notice to the arrogant utility >>companies! When biowaste is being used as fuel versus landfill, any >>efficiency is beneficial while it certainly could be better if the >>utilities were less hostile. >> >> > >2 cents is probably about what they pay for electricity. Have you considered >a water cooled engine so you can use the wasted heat? You get the heat and >they get the electricity. >Malcolm > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
