I think that we have a troll in here ...... it is starting to sound like the John Grant thread on energy renewables.
Keith, any comments On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Damian J. Anderson wrote: > > Nick, > > Do you have scientific data to show that biofuel is cleaner than > petroleum? Does it not depend on the engine? My car is certified as an > Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle. I guess if you are running a 20 year old > gas guzzler, it may run in a dirty way, but good modern engines are > very clean. > > Damian > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Nick Taylor (SMTechnology.com) wrote: > > >Damian, I think you missed one major point about 'biofullers': Biofuel > >is much much cleaner than dino-fuel, so people prefer to use biodiesel > >where possible. Even though it may cost me more to run my van on > >Biodiesel, I will be smiling at the thought of 99% less pollutants. Oil > >is dirty. Diesel is dirty. That's why people won't use it unless they > >have to when there is an alternative. > >It's a simple equation, not really to do with the oil giants...... > > > >Kind Regards > >Nick Taylor, > >Technical Consultant. > >SMTechnology.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Damian J. Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 28 January 2003 17:13 > >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH > > > > > >I was in Costco over the weekend and looked at the price of corn oil. It > >was about $3.20 a gallon. If nature, or nature's God, has provided us > >with a vast supply of naturally occurring petroleum, it seems like it > >does not make economic sense to make bio fuels, even if you had no tax > >at > >all. Even with the tax, gasoline is only $1.50 a gallon, and that is in > >the middle of a crisis of the world oil supply because of the prospect > >of another Gulf War and also the political crisis in Venezuela. So, > >if there were no tax on gasoline, or a lot less, it would be even more > >favorable than biofuels. It does not seem to make sense to do the > >chemistry yourself when it has already been done for you, and there are > >vast untapped resources of it sitting in the ground. If we ever run out > >of petroleum, we can always still grow corn and turn it into corn oil > >or alcohol to burn. But for now, both are economically a bad idea. > > > >It is analagous to turning lead into gold. It can be done today with our > >knowledge of nuclear physics, but the cost of doing so is more than the > >market price of gold. Why make gold when there is an abundant supply > >sitting in the ground just waiting to be mined? > > > >There is virtue in not being dependant on Middle Eastern oil, mostly > >because it is foolish to tie our national economy, and hence its > >security, > >to a region of the world devoid of democracy and social justice, where > >most of the countries are backward dictatorships. Even our "friends" > >the Saudis, are a backward corrupt dictatorship. > > > >Damian Anderson > > -- > Damian J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.unification.net > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
