>What doesn't the article hold back on, the truth or BS. Do you really >believe Secretary of State Colin Powell plagiarized material from a college >student for his speech to the United Nations. He has the total U.S. >Intelligence gathering agencies to use at his disposal, and he plagiarized >from a college student. I believe the article is a little full of something. > >Harley
Yes, Harley, I suppose anything that's outside the view of a keyhole vision can be dubbed "BS", that makes everything so easy and comfortable. Buty really, couldn't you even take the trouble to get your denial right? It doesn't say Powell plagiarized it, he quoted from Mr Blair's document, and *that* was plagiarized. Doesn't matter, it's all BS anyway, eh? Apart from that little quibble, regarding the alleged input of the U.S. Intelligence gathering agencies, you seem to have missed this bit somehow that Hoagy posted as well: Split at C.I.A. and F.B.I. on Iraqi Ties to Al Qaeda New York Times, February 2, 2003 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/02/international/middleeast/02INTE.html This is not at all the only such story - here's another current one: MI6 and CIA: the new enemy within The Independent, London 09 February 2003 -- Tony Blair and George Bush are encountering an unexpected obstacle in their campaign for war against Iraq - their own intelligence agencies. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=376732 And I suppose most of the world's press is also "a little full of something", like the following small current sampling: First casualties in the propaganda firefight All's fair in the war for hearts and minds: frustrated by the failure of the UN weapons inspectors in Iraq to find the 'smoking gun', Downing Street resorted to plagiarising a 12-year-old US doctoral thesis - The Observer, London, Sunday February 9, 2003 http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,891940,00.html The dossier that shamed Britain Deception can only corrode public trust The Observer, Sunday February 9, 2003 http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,892066,00.html Blair under fire for plagiarised dossier LONDON (Reuters) February 07 2003 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030207/80/dsq4h.html Real Authors Of Iraq Dossier Blast Blair LA Saturday February 08, 2003 Daily Mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12620001&method =full&siteid=50143 No 10 under attack over 'ramping' of Iraq dossier The Sunday Times, Sunday February 9 2003 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-571370,00.html Iraq dossier assembled by junior aides The Times, February 08, 2003 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-570248,00.html UK's Iraq dossier a thesis lift - The Age, Australia - Agence Francaise Presse Saturday 8 February 2003 http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/08/1044579984168.html Downing St dossier plagiarised Iraq 6 February 2003 The government's carefully co-ordinated propaganda offensive has taken an embarrassing hit after Downing Street was accused of plagiarism. * Read sample of plagiarised text http://www.channel4.com/news/home/z/stories/20030206/dossier.html Even No. 10 Downing Street (know where that is?) is saying so: Downing Street admission - Channel 4 News It took them nearly 24 hours, but Downing Street was eventually forced to admit it made a mistake. A spokesman confessed that it should have credited the authors of the articles it used in the document, particularly Ibrahim Al Marashi - he's the graduate student whose thesis was copied -- grammatical errors and all. http://www.channel4.com/news/home/z/stories/20030206/dossier.html#2 UK admits copying student's thesis for Iraq dossier The Indian Express - Asian News International London, February 9: In what amounted to an official acknowledgement of plagiarism, the British government has admitted that a dossier against Saddam Hussein was partly copied from a student's PhD thesis and cobbled together by Alastair Campbell's propaganda machine. http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=18130 But, Harley, I'm sure you must be right and they're all talking BS. Funny how NONE of those sources include any member of the mainstream US press, now isn't it? That's been widely commented on, especially in the US - days and days go by but this major world story that some say could topple the government of the US's only supporter in it's war on Iraq remains unreported in the US, and only in the US. It's pointed out that "they" brought you the news of the Space Shuttle within seconds, but not this? Well, maybe they suffer from keyhole vision and thinks it's all BS. See also: Mr Blair asks us to trust him. We cannot do so The Independent , 09 February 2003 http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=376794 The Paxman dossier: Blair's case for war In his televised interview with Jeremy Paxman last week, the Prime Minister faced a largely hostile audience and a sceptical country and, 'in effect' as he might say, set out his arguments for action against Iraq. Here Andy McSmith analyses his key points The Independent , 09 February 2003 http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=376741 Re your Mr Powell and his speech, it sure didn't impress your "allies" much (other than the Downing Street "poodle"): Powell Makes Iraq Case With Photos, Tapes By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer UNITED NATIONS Wed Feb 5 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030205/ap_on_re_mi _ea/us_iraq_48 Powell Presentation It Was Like Something Out Of Beckett by Robert Fisk The Independent (UK) February 06, 2003 Sources, foreign intelligence sources, "our sources," defectors, sources, sources, sources. Colin Powell's terror talk to the United Nations Security Council yesterday sounded like one of those government-inspired reports on the front page of The New York Times - where it will most certainly be treated with due reverence in this morning's edition. It was a bit like heating up old soup. Haven't we heard most of this stuff before? Should one trust the man? General Powell, I mean, not Saddam. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=40&ItemID=2977 The unanswered questions The Guardian, Wednesday February 5, 2003 The question must be asked of Colin Powell's presentation today: why the wait to present this evidence, and why the dramatic effect? http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,889514,00.html Powell's Dubious Case By Phylliss Bennis http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=40&ItemID=2976 And so on. Free bonus: The Saddam Hussein Interview Published: 4 February 2003 We present a world exclusive - Saddam Hussein in his own words. At the weekend, the veteran labour politican Tony Benn travelled to Baghdad to meet and interview the Iraqi President. Tonight we hear why - according to Saddam - Iraq has no interest in war and possesses NO weapons of mass destruction. Here is the transcript: http://www.channel4.com/news/home/z/stories/20030205/saddam_benn.html Just for fun, how about this one? ROFL!!! Rumsfeld 'mends fences' by lumping Germany with Cuba and Libya in an axis of bad boys The Independent By Rupert Cornwell in Washington 08 February 2003 "Well, that's Rumsfeld." Those were the words of Joschka Fischer, Germany's Foreign Minister, yesterday on the latest outburst from the US Defence Secretary as he began what one news report optimistically called a "fence-mending" mission to Europe. The idea of fence-mending by the swaggering Donald Rumsfeld - a former college wrestler and a man described as a "black belt in bureaucratic infighting" - is far-fetched at the best of times. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=376449 ... only it ain't at all funny. But, what the hell, you gotta laugh anyway... Best Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: MH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:09 AM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest? > > > A article that sums up recent events and doesn't hold back -- > > > Fake terror alerts: > by John Kaminski > 2-8-3 > http://www..timewedo.com/special/kaminski/fake.shtml > > How stupid do they think we are? Only hours after our much-praised >Secretary of State is > revealed to have been using material plagiarized from a college student to >justify why we're going > to kill thousands of people with bombs, our government issues a terror >alert and expects us to > believe it? > > And how stupid are we? We believe it. <snip> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! 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