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Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Burning glyc and acrolein - was Re: Introduction and somequestions - Newbie > How hot is hot? Prolly about as hot as a masonry stove would get, > ~1,200*F (?). www.tempcast.com or > http://www.vtbrickoven.com/masonry/masonry.html > > Not the "hot" of a standard wood burner. > > You might could get away with mixing the catalyst/soap/alcohol > ("glycerin layer") with WVO, SVO or WMO (waste motor oil, > hydraulic and transmission fluid) in a furnace or boiler > specifically designed for WMO. The combustion in these units is > very efficient due to the hp air input (www.cleanburn.com or > other types). > > You could also prolly use the "paste log" mentioned below in a > downdraft wood gasifier > http://www.alternateheatingsystems.com/wg_fs.htm > > Todd Swearingen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:47 AM > Subject: [biofuel] Burning glyc and acrolein - was Re: > Introduction and somequestions - Newbie > > > > Hi Tony > > > > >There is another option. Makers of biodiesel invariably need > to > > >find disposal options for their by-product - Glycerol soaps. > > >By mixing this with sawdust to make a dry paste, and filling > used > > >milk cartons with this mixture, the use of timber for fuel can > be > > >significantly reduced. A 1 litre milk carton (~1 quart US) of > this > > >mixture will give off more heat than twice or three times that > > >weight in firewood. > > >I have been collecting milk cartons from work and home (3 per > day * > > >200 work days = 600 litres of convenient solid fuel. > > >The only proviso is that it should be burned in a very hot > fire, to > > >minimise formation of possible pollutants. > > > > Funny... a local carpenter just brought us some bags of > sawdust, > > about half-sawdust half shavings, and we were thinking of doing > just > > that with the shavings (other uses for the sawdust). I like the > milk > > carton angle. > > > > >The only proviso is that it should be burned in a very hot > fire, to > > >minimise formation of possible pollutants. > > > > Yes, the old acrolein story. Can we settle it now please? How > hot is > > "very hot", ie hot enough to avoid acrolein pollution? How > would you > > make sure to get a fire that hot? > > > > Good news if we can pin this down once and for all and find > safe ways > > of burning the stuff as an option. > > > > Regards > > > > Keith > > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:01:58 -0600 > > > From: Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin Parker wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > Who in their right mind is wasting oak on firewood?? That > stuff takes > > > > forever to grow! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But oak trees do die. They make fantastic fire wood and > that is all I > > > burn. I would never cut down a live one, no need, there are > plenty of > > > dead ones to harvest. > > > > > > Bright Blessings, > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > >Biofuels list archives: > > >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
