1.BioFuel Business ---------------------- You should work on Oil Palm, it got 3 times higher yield than any other crops. I thought about it the wholeday, if you wanted to do it. Get the best yield out of the same efforts! Where did you normally get all the seeds for Oil palm or Kenaf?
2.Side products ------------------- (If you are new here, check out www.greenla.com/recycling/kenaf.htm Not only kenaf can make biofuel, they are also good to make paper. To save the industry from chopping down more trees!!) 3.Seeds Received inquiry for where to get these seeds, Where did you normally get all the seeds for Oil palm or Kenaf? Need help! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Allbright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > Tricia > > Hi, first I want to say thanks for the information you have provided about the crop yields. I am pretty new to biodeisel and tottally new to this group. I have been looking for this information all over, but have had little clue as to where I would find it. Can you tell me where you got this info I am building a business plan for making Biodeisel and this is important information. > > Thanks > Doug Allbright > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tricia Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:13 AM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > > > Corns yeilds 18 gallon/acre > Soya yields 48 gallon/acre > Cocunuts 287 gallon/acre > Oil Palm 635 gallon/acre > Chokecherries 214 gallon/acre? > > Based on those yields, the price for Oil Palm should be 35 times better than > corns? > The retail price for Biofuel is $2.05-2.50/gallon. So we are talking about > an Oil Palm crop that can > produce $1,400 - $1,587.50 market value per acre comparing to $36.90 - > $45/gallon for the corns? > (Or other suitable plants for the climate and the processing capability) > > I don't know how many yields per year for these plants and maybe the harvest > will be hard etc. > But the BioFuel Accosiation or the Farmers groups should find a better > BioFuel crops to grow, to make more > money and provide better yield! Howcome the farmers states never put some > funds to discover the > best yield crops and encourange their farmers to at least switch some of > their lands to grow these energy crops? > > By mass production to bring down the prices of BioFuel, then more drivers > will switch to Bio Diesel vehicles. > Can not believe that there are no organization or talents in the government > in doing this job? To improve the productivity > of the lands and to increase the incomes of the farmers. Farmers should use > wisely your resources and voting right, not only > helping to set up experimental farms to find the best crops for each states. > Just like France and Italy, Biofuel should be > tax free to help her to gain market share. And maybe later on, after > BioFuel replaced good portion of the Fossil oil fuel. > Go back to tax again, by that time, the BioFuel prices should be really > reasonable! > > Hope to hear from the real farmers, I'm just speculating. There must have > some organization will lead the farmers to plan > their production to get the maximum market value of of the same land? The > productivity of the farmers had been high, but > you have to add in the market value consideration. To grow more valuable > crops to make more money, the money will > either goes to imported oil or goes to the farmers. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "norris hobson (SRI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:42 AM > Subject: RE: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > > > > The reasons are many: > > The markets are probably not in place > > The processing is not in place > > Farmers have the equipment and knowledge to grow and harvest corn, wheat > soya etc. > > They will not commit their large farms to a crop which they do not know > how to grow, harvest and sell. > > The claims for yields are probably based on research with trial plots and > the yields from growing them in real conditions with pests and diseases that > will get bigger as the crops get bigger are much lower. > > > > I'll take the example of hemp grown in the UK - it is a wonder crop, > amazing yield, needs little fertiliser and chemicals as it grows so fast. > Amazing tough fibre, seed can be used for biodiesel etc. But how much is > grown. Around 2500 ha. even with a subsidy of around £500/ha. Why - > because it is a bastard to harvest and the yields are much lower than the > researchers quote, and hence the returns are lower. There is a small demand > for it but a UK company has been working very hard for years to promote the > crop, and their main market was/is the hurds used for horse bedding. > > What are chokeberries. Is it April 1st. > > Rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tricia Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 19 February 2003 11:58 > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > > > > > > Mr.Hartman posted a long message not long ago, voicing for the American > > Farmers. > > The income is lower and the cost is growing higher....... > > And then there are discussion about these higher yield products, so why > > don't the farmers grow the better yield crops? > > African Oil plants or the chokecherries? Climate or weather limitation? > > Cost too high? > > > > (I may retire earlier to start my own farm, if these are the star crops > for > > the future!) > > > > So why don't you? The growing demand of BioFuel and the corns and Soy > > beans are not the best sources for biofuel? > > Seem to be a simple solution but did I miss anything? Instead of asking > for > > the government to keep on funding, maybe > > if the farmers switching to the higher yield crops. Then we will see some > > Farmer Tycoons over those oil Tycoons? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Neoteric Biofuels Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > > > > > > > They do. More oil per acre than African oil palms, apparently, and a > > > LOT of pulp for ethanol - and they smell nice too? Bonus. 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