Hi Tricia, Contact your local ARS, as they work on those issues.
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Tricia Liu wrote: > Corns yeilds 18 gallon/acre > Soya yields 48 gallon/acre > Cocunuts 287 gallon/acre > Oil Palm 635 gallon/acre > Chokecherries 214 gallon/acre? > > Based on those yields, the price for Oil Palm should be 35 times better > than > corns? > The retail price for Biofuel is $2.05-2.50/gallon. So we are talking > about > an Oil Palm crop that can > produce $1,400 - $1,587.50 market value per acre comparing to $36.90 - > $45/gallon for the corns? > (Or other suitable plants for the climate and the processing capability) > > I don't know how many yields per year for these plants and maybe the > harvest > will be hard etc. > But the BioFuel Accosiation or the Farmers groups should find a better > BioFuel crops to grow, to make more > money and provide better yield! Howcome the farmers states never put > some > funds to discover the > best yield crops and encourange their farmers to at least switch some of > their lands to grow these energy crops? > > By mass production to bring down the prices of BioFuel, then more drivers > will switch to Bio Diesel vehicles. > Can not believe that there are no organization or talents in the > government > in doing this job? To improve the productivity > of the lands and to increase the incomes of the farmers. Farmers should > use > wisely your resources and voting right, not only > helping to set up experimental farms to find the best crops for each > states. > Just like France and Italy, Biofuel should be > tax free to help her to gain market share. And maybe later on, after > BioFuel replaced good portion of the Fossil oil fuel. > Go back to tax again, by that time, the BioFuel prices should be really > reasonable! > > Hope to hear from the real farmers, I'm just speculating. There must > have > some organization will lead the farmers to plan > their production to get the maximum market value of of the same land? > The > productivity of the farmers had been high, but > you have to add in the market value consideration. To grow more valuable > crops to make more money, the money will > either goes to imported oil or goes to the farmers. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "norris hobson (SRI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:42 AM > Subject: RE: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > > > > The reasons are many: > > The markets are probably not in place > > The processing is not in place > > Farmers have the equipment and knowledge to grow and harvest corn, > wheat > soya etc. > > They will not commit their large farms to a crop which they do not know > how to grow, harvest and sell. > > The claims for yields are probably based on research with trial plots > and > the yields from growing them in real conditions with pests and diseases > that > will get bigger as the crops get bigger are much lower. > > > > I'll take the example of hemp grown in the UK - it is a wonder crop, > amazing yield, needs little fertiliser and chemicals as it grows so fast. > Amazing tough fibre, seed can be used for biodiesel etc. But how much is > grown. Around 2500 ha. even with a subsidy of around £500/ha. Why - > because it is a bastard to harvest and the yields are much lower than the > researchers quote, and hence the returns are lower. There is a small > demand > for it but a UK company has been working very hard for years to promote > the > crop, and their main market was/is the hurds used for horse bedding. > > What are chokeberries. Is it April 1st. > > Rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tricia Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 19 February 2003 11:58 > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > > > > > > Mr.Hartman posted a long message not long ago, voicing for the American > > Farmers. > > The income is lower and the cost is growing higher....... > > And then there are discussion about these higher yield products, so why > > don't the farmers grow the better yield crops? > > African Oil plants or the chokecherries? Climate or weather > limitation? > > Cost too high? > > > > (I may retire earlier to start my own farm, if these are the star crops > for > > the future!) > > > > So why don't you? The growing demand of BioFuel and the corns and Soy > > beans are not the best sources for biofuel? > > Seem to be a simple solution but did I miss anything? Instead of > asking > for > > the government to keep on funding, maybe > > if the farmers switching to the higher yield crops. Then we will see > some > > Farmer Tycoons over those oil Tycoons? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Neoteric Biofuels Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] good oil crops for England > > > > > > > They do. More oil per acre than African oil palms, apparently, and a > > > LOT of pulp for ethanol - and they smell nice too? Bonus. The bees > > > prolly love 'em. > > > > > > Edward Beggs > > > http://www.biofuels.ca > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:14 AM, kirk wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think of chokecherries as bearing much. > > > > The blossoms are one of the lovliest scents in the world. > > > > Truly exquisite. > > > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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