Domenick V. Amato wrote: >Thank you for your clarification and your comments. I will limit myself to >discussion about biofuels - although it has been very tempting to jump in >(on?) statements which appear to be very disagreeable. > >Dom Amato
You're more than welcome to discuss anything you wish. To say it yet again - these are mature people here and probably more individualistic than most, they don't need a nanny telling them what they're allowed to discuss and what not. Robert's point that "off-topic" discussions often lead somewhere worthwhile is definitely true, it happens again and again. In nearly all cases members are quite capable of moderating themselves, they know when they're being truly off-topic and seldom stray too far. ["Moderator" mode off.] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Darryl McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:43 AM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears > > > > "Domenick V. Amato" wrote: > > > > > That's probably one of the most lame answers I have heard in a very long > > > time. I can assure you that the person who was in the SUV does not >agree. > > > Railroad trains can kill SUVs and Yugos can kill pedestrians. Should we > > > ban railroad trains and Yugos or SUVs and pedestrians? We probably >should > > > ban cars below the size of an SUV because they are the most unsafe of > > > vehicles when involved in a accident. An archives search might have stopped you making this post - not a lame answer, SUVs do kill, and small cars are not inherently more dangerous. Weren't you saying something about "sweeping generalizations"? If you now want to dub what I've just said as just such sweeping generalizations, don't forget that I've referred you to supporting material in the archives, but you've offered no support for any of the statements you've made other than your opinion. In fact you re-started an old thread here that had already been responded to (and dealt with a few times previous to that), but you missed the responses. Some time spent at the archives might have stopped you doing that too. Keith Addison > > > > In my experience, we effectively do ban railroad trains. We require them >to have > > their own roads, and where they do intersect with automotive traffic, they >require > > crossing gates or special warning signage, all erected at the expense of >the rail > > operators. > > > > Pedestrians are often provided with their own paths (sidewalks, crosswalks >etc) to > > keep them separated from automotive traffic to reduce injuries from >contact. > > > > In some places, heavy trucks (over 5 tonnes) get their own roads, or at >least their > > own lanes on highways. > > > > So far, we do not require SUVs and "light" trucks to have their own roads, >but this > > may be primarily because their appearance in large quantities is a >relatively new > > phenomenon. > > > > As for the tone of this list, I think if you review this thread, no one >here has > > proposed a ban on SUVs. We had a couple of posters who chose to interpret >some > > comments in that way. We do have some folks (including me) that would >prefer to > > see drivers of heavy SUVs obtain additional licensing to operate these >vehicles to > > ensure they know how they differ from smaller vehicles with lower centers >of > > gravity. Rollovers are a greater concern with SUVs and other high >clearance > > vehicles than those with lower CGs. Larger equipment is topical, as it >often uses > > diesel engines. Still, I don't plan to use a large diesel truck for >commuting over > > a smaller vehicle just because it can run biodiesel. > > > > Darryl McMahon > > > > > > > > > > Darryl McMahon 48 Tarquin Crescent, > > Econogics, Inc. Nepean, Ontario K2H 8J8 > > It's your planet. Voice: (613)784-0655 > > If you won't look Fax: (613)828-3199 > > after it, who will? http://www.econogics.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/