Let's try this "what';s offtopic and what's ontopic' thing for just one message.
ONTOPIC Ah, that's why we saw so much of you on the local biodiesel list today , Ken. no TV! OFFTOPIC anyway folks, if you're in the situation Ken's in, get on the internet and see if there's an Indymedia listing for your area/country. www.indymedia.org uploads stories from just about anyone and is a good source of underreported info on dissent in the US. It's where you'd go to find what Ken was asking about. OFFTOPIC I got up today at 6 am to go rage at the state of things via the SF traffic today (only way to get the issue of dissent any press unfortunately) but ONTOPIC! had a horrid biodiesel mess to deal with instead. My outdoor biodiesel site has a huge lake in the corner of the parking lot- where I had to put my processors- and I had some minor leak in a drum a couple nights ago. The little leak spread all over the big old lake. OFFTOPIC Mr Biosmell came over at 7 to encourage me to go protest in SF and I declined. ONTOPIC! I felt like a super chump as I moped around my site all day connecting hoses and doing plumbing and pumping out 50 gallons of rainwater over to the compost pile and collecting greasy rags and consolidating glycerine. OFFTOPIC waaah! One motto of the SF shutdown was 'no business as usual' and it felt odd to be going about the most mundane business as usual- ONTOPIC sweeping up a greasy muddy biodiesel mess with the radio on and OFFTOPIC phone interviews with people in Baghdad playing on Democracy Now on the radio. People in our ONTOPIC! biodiesel co-op tried pretty hard to organize a concerted biodieselers' presence on the streets but with OFFTOPIC! three protests to choose from (SF, Oakland, and Berkeley) and everybody already set on one or the other it was a bit much to coordinate on a days' notice. We decided to go over to the upcoming Saturday one as a group after our ONTOPIC beginners' liter batch training instead. It's been interesting watching the biodiesel co-op transform into a quite vocal OFFTOPIC antiwar group, people trying to make the ONTOPIC biofuels- HEY!OFFTOPIC oilwar connection more visible to the average local. well while my fellow ONTOPIC biodiesel comrades were out in the OFFTOPIC streets having a picnic in the intersections, I drove OOPS THAT'S ONTOPIC! over the bridge right by the Chevron refinery (ONTOPIC) and went to go look at some ONTOPIC!!!!!! industrial stills. YAY!!!!! I bought about three of them for my biodiesel 'cell' and a couple of other people. Kind of like the one posted here recently as having been on (oops- on-off?-on? off??? ) ebay recently. So methanol (still! ontopic)recovery here I come, along with a few of my friends. WHoop dee doo. They're big units for removing whatever boils from whatever solids is in it. Yay. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our list has gotten so OT the last few days I'm > taking the liberty here of going even further > -- my apologies to those who aren't US residents > at the moment. I just saw on TV that downtown > San Francisco (50 miles north) is PARALYZED > with demonstrations at this moment. I went to > see what was happening in my own town > San Jose, and quickly discovered that there is > NO LOCAL TV STATION in San Jose any more > (not a small city, mind you -- over a million). > Well, there's a local station, sure, but they're > not showing local news. They are a part of some > conglomerate or network something and they're > showing what's happening in San Francisco...... > > Say I wanna join some local demonstration in > my home town, and I wanna do it NOW. Not having > a local TV station to tell me what's happening > is sort of "disempowering." :-) > > So then I get thinking about "divide and conquer." > > Anyway -- you other Americans -- you still > got local stations? -K ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/