If memory serves, there was at one time a pink-bubble wrapped hot water tank
fastened inside some sort of wood frame that was being touted as a "vacuous
processor" or something similar.

Or was it a site that was referenced on this list and hot linked to?

Todd Swearingen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Impact of Energy Price Rise


> Hi Todd
>
> >Robert,
> >
> >I don't know if its "delight" that's being expressed more than it's a
> >thankfulness that some market corrections are coming into play and that
> >perhaps the "playing field" is becoming a little more level.
> >
> >Most are aware that higher fuel costs disproportionally harm those of
lesser
> >income. It's hardly a pretty fact.
> >
> >Call it sick, but wouldn't that be similar to what the war advocates
> >casually call "collateral damage?"
> >
> >Had government leadership and industry been responsible over the decades,
> >most recently over the past three decades, none of this would be as
> >devastating as it might yet prove to be.
> >
> >Problem with creating ever wider chasms is that the bridges to get across
> >them become exponentially higher in cost, materials and losses to
construct.
> >
> >As for the hot water tank, I believe that JTF had an example of just that
at
> >one time or another.
>
> Did we? It doesn't ring a bell - can you jog my memory a bit?
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> >Todd Swearingen
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 2:55 PM
> >Subject: [biofuel] Impact of Energy Price Rise
> >
> >
> > >     I've been wondering recently how higher fuel prices will impact
the
> > > production of biodiesel, which requires methanol (a fossil input), and
> > > ethanol, which requires some kind of heat energy (frequently derived
> > > from fossil fuels) for distillation.
> > >
> > >     Some of the people on this list have expressed delight at the
higher
> > > gasoline prices we're seeing.  Here in Vancouver, a liter of regular
> > > currently ranges from about .74 to as high as .87, depending on the
> > > area.  We're starting to see these higher prices impact food costs, so
> > > even vegetable oils or saccharine feed stocks that require
> > > transportation from point of harvest to point of use will also rise.
> > >
> > >     Has anyone calculated the percentage increase these factors will
> > > have on the production of biodiesel and ethanol?
> > >
> > >     By the way, I found a discarded electric water heater with a glass
> > > lined tank that looks like it's in good shape.  I'm tempted to tear it
> > > apart and see what might be salvageable.  Has anyone used such a thing
> > > for biodiesel production?
> > >
> > >
> > > robert luis rabello
> > > "The Edge of Justice"
> > > Adventure for Your Mind
> > > http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782
>
>
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