If memory serves, there was at one time a pink-bubble wrapped hot water tank fastened inside some sort of wood frame that was being touted as a "vacuous processor" or something similar.
Or was it a site that was referenced on this list and hot linked to? Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Impact of Energy Price Rise > Hi Todd > > >Robert, > > > >I don't know if its "delight" that's being expressed more than it's a > >thankfulness that some market corrections are coming into play and that > >perhaps the "playing field" is becoming a little more level. > > > >Most are aware that higher fuel costs disproportionally harm those of lesser > >income. It's hardly a pretty fact. > > > >Call it sick, but wouldn't that be similar to what the war advocates > >casually call "collateral damage?" > > > >Had government leadership and industry been responsible over the decades, > >most recently over the past three decades, none of this would be as > >devastating as it might yet prove to be. > > > >Problem with creating ever wider chasms is that the bridges to get across > >them become exponentially higher in cost, materials and losses to construct. > > > >As for the hot water tank, I believe that JTF had an example of just that at > >one time or another. > > Did we? It doesn't ring a bell - can you jog my memory a bit? > > Keith > > > > >Todd Swearingen > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 2:55 PM > >Subject: [biofuel] Impact of Energy Price Rise > > > > > > > I've been wondering recently how higher fuel prices will impact the > > > production of biodiesel, which requires methanol (a fossil input), and > > > ethanol, which requires some kind of heat energy (frequently derived > > > from fossil fuels) for distillation. > > > > > > Some of the people on this list have expressed delight at the higher > > > gasoline prices we're seeing. Here in Vancouver, a liter of regular > > > currently ranges from about .74 to as high as .87, depending on the > > > area. We're starting to see these higher prices impact food costs, so > > > even vegetable oils or saccharine feed stocks that require > > > transportation from point of harvest to point of use will also rise. > > > > > > Has anyone calculated the percentage increase these factors will > > > have on the production of biodiesel and ethanol? > > > > > > By the way, I found a discarded electric water heater with a glass > > > lined tank that looks like it's in good shape. I'm tempted to tear it > > > apart and see what might be salvageable. Has anyone used such a thing > > > for biodiesel production? > > > > > > > > > robert luis rabello > > > "The Edge of Justice" > > > Adventure for Your Mind > > > http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/