not to sound cliche-ish but history is full of empires who have fallen due to their own "success" (i.e. greeeeed)...ours won't be any different...if you think about it, we haven't come that far...instead of beating and killing each other up for scarce resources like we used to do, we're beating up on the nature and the environment as well as others outside of our direct "eyesite"...funny thing is, nature may take a while to hit back, but when she does, watch out...it's gonna be ugly...i just hope i ain't around to get wholloped...and if i am, then i hope it will be mercifully quick and painless...
kn sac, ca >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/02/03 10:59AM >>> Well, it could be a big conspiracy. Or, it could just be inept bungling. My own vote is for ineptness. And, I think your mention of the Barbarian Horde interesting, but in another light. The Romans got sloppy, over-confident, lazy, and inept and got their butts kicked. I think the West, as epitomized by the U.S. is becoming increasingly lazy, inept and over-confident. I just hope we can get our collective wits about us before we, too, get our butts kicked. I have had to deal with a lot of executives of a Fortune 500 company. This is supposedly a premier company in the U.S. It is sad to say that I am amazed that they haven't gone bankrupt. They are wallowing in ineptitude. I fear that this is just one example of a general phenomena. Compare the U.S. educational system to the European one, or just about any other country. We are in a lot of trouble and it is getting worse. A company can go to China and get Chinese labor for USD 80.00/month, AND, they are better educated than the general workers in the U.S., from what I have seen. We can not afford to continue to pump money into the military, and a bunch of other similar programs without rebuilding our own foundations. In general, I have in the past been a proponent of a strong military, but I am getting literally frightened that the U.S. is going to implode if we don't start giving some serious attention to our domestic needs. It won't matter what we do overseas, and it won't matter how much the politicians try and divert our attention with foreign policy. In my opinion, our entire social structure is facing collapse. We can not project strong foreign policy if we don't have the foundation to project from. Relative to the conspiracy theories and the politicians, I think our only full- time defense or the guys working full-time to root out the bad apples. I am referring to the journalists. Sure some of the media isn't doing as well as they should, and some have been bought. And, we have to guard against the info- mercials and other public relations ploys to feed us propaganda under the guise of news. But, if we didn't have the true blue journalists hounding the politicians, and keeping them honest, we would be much worse off. I have lived in a lot of countries with a controlled press, and the freedom of the Western press is one of the most important factors to keep our free country free. Regards, Derek > I believe that when the truth is told about our current > regime (Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush), this period in > history will be called the most corrupt government of all > time. Even the Barbarian Horde did nothing more sinister > and evil than these good ol' boys. > > That's right, I'm saying that the same group has been in > power since 1981, and with the exception of Jimmy Carter > this group probably goes all the way back to the Johnson > administration. > > kris > > --- MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.wanttoknow.info/911timeline10pg > > > > > > This guy uses mainstream media to tell the real story, > > or > > > at least a more believeable story than the Republican > > spin > > > we've been getting. > > > > > > kris > > > > > > Thank you Kris! That's quite a bit of documentation > > about -- > > The 9/11 Timeline 10-Page Summary > > Was 9/11 Allowed to Happen? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/O10svD/Me7FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/