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From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 05/22/03 08:32 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [biofuel] Fire Mitigation

> 
> Hello Greg

>Keith,
>
>    should over growen forest, be thined?

I don't think there's any disagreement about that.

>If so, what should be done with the wood from the thinning?

You're putting the cart before the horse Greg - you're not going to 
demonstrate that "therefore let Big Timber do it" makes sense that 
way, it ignores everything I've been posting, both this time and last 
time the GAO issued a similar report. There's NO basis to the SPIN 
that whacky enviros prevent forest thinning.

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That is not my intent here.  My intent is to find out what is to be done with 
the wood from the thinning.  While you say that this is putting the cart before 
the horse, this is something that needs to be thought out, before the thinning 
starts.   

The reasion I say this is depending on the end use, of the thinnings, different 
measures, need/can to be used, for the cutting, transporting of the thinnings 
out of and to the final destination, even how it is stored.  

For example: Do you remove whole trees, let wood cutters ( for fire wood )come 
in and remove them in pieces, or do you chip it all on sight for mulch or 
paper, and then haul it out? 

By determining what the end use is going to be, you can determin things like 
the size of the roads going in to and out of these areas.    

Please don't think that I'm for Big Timber to do it, I'm not, I would prefer 
someone else do the job, but, what I am saying, is the job must be done, or it 
will be more expensive in the long run.

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This move is a sham - thinning overgrown forests to prevent fires is 
the sheep's clothing it's wearing, allowing Big Timber to take 
whatever they want regardless is the wolf underneath.

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I don't realy disagree with you Keith, personaly I would like to see the little 
guys benifet, and not Big Timber, but, in the end, I don't want to see anything 
go to waste, and I think that is what is going to happen. Heck as far as the 
local situation goes, I say "split the contracts out among the small local 
companies so that all benifet, not just a few big companies that don't put 
anything in to the local area, this way the forest gets thinned and the locals 
benifet in more ways than one".

In the end, if the forest doesn't get thinned by someone, everything will go to 
waste in a larger fire that will set back local ecology, further than it need 
not go. In a way, I see it currently as a Catch-22 situation, the forest is in 
trouble if it is not thinned and it burns out of control and it's in trouble if 
Big Timber gets it hands on it.

Greg H.


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