Dear Keith,
According to my contacts in the UK, you can obtain waste cooking oil
from all the fish & chip shops, Indian restaurants etc and must record
how much you collected and then pay the fuel tax directly to Her
majestyâs government.
Keep up the great work
Peter (Tanzania)
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:27 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Oh boy :Was; Re: Neither Right nor Left but Dead
on Center
Hi Gustl
That's a very good 2 cents' worth, thankyou! Mine was only 2 yen.
>Hallo Keith ,
>
>Sunday, 08 June, 2003, 22:24:51, you wrote:
>
>...snip...
>
>KA> As for "off-topic political crap" (in other words, "I don't agree
>KA> with it"),
>
>...snip...
>
>If I may add my 2 cents worth. In Michigan the DEQ (Dept. of
>Environmental Quality) has ruled that transporting used cooking oil as
>well as producing biodiesel must be classified as hazardous and
>applies all the restrictions which the term "hazardous" requires in
>the handling of the oil and production of the fuel including requiring
>a CDL with a HAZMAT endorsement. What this means is that Michigan is
>imposing large fees to everything involved in the production of
>biodiesel including the collection of the used oil. It pretty
>effectively excludes farmers and small time operators from producing
>biodiesel. Very political considering biodiesel is biodegradeable and
>used oil doesn't meet any of the 4 requirements the federal government
>has applied to hazardous materials.
>
>Another fact. If I drive my truck over to the nearest McDonalds and
>the waste oil hauler is there I may pay him for the used oil and then
>the McDonalds employees or myself may put the oil onto my truck and
>then I may take it anywhere I please with no restrictions without the
>waste hauler ever having been in possession of the oil. Why? The
>hauler was handling a "waste" product while I would be handling a
>"new" product even though the hauler never handled the product at all.
That's nuts!
>All a load of political horse manure for the benefit of government and
>large business interests.
Sure is. These crazy rules are the result of bureaucrats furthering
their interests - ie, problem maintenance rather than problem
resolution: more and more rules and regs about less and less. But on
top of that it inevitably starts to lean towards favouring big biz
interests, an unholy alliance indeed, and very anti-people.
But AFAIK the EPA classifies used cooking oil as a hazardous waste, I
guess that might be what gave Michigan its basis for this nonsense.
On the other hand, if the EPA were really serious about it maybe such
a very large proportion of it wouldn't end up in sewers and
landfills. The fact that nobody clearly knows even how much is
produced might be an indication of how serious they are. That seems
to apply to most countries, with the exception of a few EU countries
where it's been studied.
>Happy Happy,
>
>Gustl
>PS-Ohio is much easier to deal with and much more reasonable when it
>comes to biodiesel.
And you're in Michigan? I must say Japan is proving reasonable
enough. In Hong Kong the gubmint tried to stop us, but here there are
no obstacles at all, or not as yet. The municipal folks approve and
will probably help, Tokyo also approves these days:
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=19390
<http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=19390&list=BIOFUEL>
&list=BIOFUEL
Regards
Keith
>Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns.
>Mitglied-Team AMIGA
>ICQ: 22211253-Gustli
>********
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>soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones,
>without signposts.
>C. S. Lewis, "The Screwtape Letters"
>********
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>da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewšhnlichen Welt nicht
>gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden.
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