Hello Paul and all

><<Can I use cow's milk fat to make biodiesel?>>
>
>Keith, Brent,
>
>Butter contains water, its an emulsion of water in  milk fat which is
>accomplished during the churning, can't remember offhand the % of water
>present. Ghee or dehydrated butter would be a better feedstock
>One of the tests on butter in dairy labs is water content. The water is
>boiled out of a known weight of butter. End result is a golden liquid with a
>crumb-like deposit in the bottom of the flask (could be proteins, milk
>solids and salt). Filtering would be required or a more gentle heat
>treatment. The residue from the moisture test is then used for the salt
>test.
>The salt may be a factor to be taken into account, better to use unsalted
>butter.
>
> > >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Hi Brent
> > >
> > >When you say "cow's milk fat" you mean butter?
><snip>

Thought I had to ask because if he'd meant butter he'd probably have 
said "butter". Maybe.

>Ghee would be the purest form of milk fat available.
>Whilst cheese contains up to 30% fat in some varieties the fat would have to
>be extracted by solvent extraction/digestion.
>Milk from currently used Freezian cows runs at about 4% butterfat.

Jerseys get rather more. So do Dexters I think - quite a lot of 
cattle breeds do. Also water buffalo, which produce it and thrive on 
a diet a Friesian would starve on.

>the traditional method of testing milk for butterfat involved the use of
>near concentrated sulphuric acid and centrifuging to release the fat from
>the proteins and allow it to accumulate in the neck of a graduated test
>flask, this was the Babcock test.
>Today Lab instruments, made mainly by Foss are used to analyse milk.
>Other mammals besides cows yield much higher fat contents in their milk.
>Sheep milk is higher in fat content and Wallrus milk is about 50% fat I seem
>to remember. Can't imaging farming/milking the latter.
>
>regards   Paul Gobert.

You never milked a walrus, Paul? Good grief man, what sort of school 
did they send you to??? These young people of today, they don't know 
from nothing. :-)

Nice info, Paul, thanks - and I'm actually pleased to know about walrus milk.

Ghee would be better, but anyway, the answer is Yes, you can make 
biodiesel from butter, though I'm not sure why - the prospect of 
biodieselled toast and strawberry jam lacks appeal. Though does 
Europe still have a butter mountain? Probably - probably the US too. 
And Oz/NZ?

dewatering the butter is easy enough. Take 400 g of butter, heat 
(indirect) to 60 deg C, maintain for 15 minutes. It sort of clarifies 
and a bunch of thick whitish gunk falls out at the bottom 
(buttermilk?). You're left with 315 g butter and 100 g buttermilk.

The butter titrated at 0.6 ml. Butter's stoich ratio for methanol is 
a bit higher than most oils at 13.6% - see 
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_meth.html
How much methanol? - so use a little more methanol than usual, 24-25%.

Single-stage transesterification at 55 deg C produced a nice-looking 
butter biodiesel, with the by-product glyc deposit a clear yellow, 
almost the same colour as the biodiesel. Haven't washed it yet but I 
don't expect any problems.

This was salted butter, but it doesn't seem to have made any 
difference. Most in the by-product I expect, and it'll wash out 
anyway.

Regards

Keith



>
> >The link works.
> >
> >
> >On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 04:22 AM, Brent S wrote:
> >
> > > Is the process the same? Your link didn't work for me.
> > > Brent
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> > >> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [biofuel] milk fat
> > >> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:27:07 -0700
> > >>
> > >> Yes.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.ecoliving.co.nz/Ecoliving/mag/issue4/Biodiesel%20-
> > >> %20The%20Fuel%20of%20the%20Future.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 07:56 PM, carreragt41991 wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> Can I use cow's milk fat to make biodiesel.
> > >>> Thanks


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