Hi Todd,
When I try to recover methanol out of the BD, untill what temperature can I
bring the BD at maximum, without "damaging" the BD ? ( Can it be damaged ? )

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Pieter Koole
Netherlands

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] filtering process


> James,
>
> Almost no one is dealing with methanol recovery at the home scale.
>
> Best time to recover it is after FFA/glycerin recovery if the fertilizer
and
> FFA (fuel) co-products are going to be used elsewhere. Alcohol recovery at
> this stage also means a lesser volume that has to pass over the
evaporator,
> erego a lesser energy input to recover the same volume of alcohol.
>
> If the expectancy is to "just dump" the stuff, then the alcohol should be
> recovered prior to dumping.
>
> There aren't any "in betweens."
>
> Todd Swearingen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Slayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] filtering process
>
>
> > Todd,
> >
> > Are you allowing the BD to settle up over that time, or are you doing
meth
> > recovery as soon as the drum is filled?  I was wondering how people were
> > dealing with the meth recovery on a smallish level.  I will be getting
> > some plans for a solar still using 55gal drums and I am wondering if
that
> > will be useful for glyc meth recovery.
> >
> > James Slayden
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Appal Energy wrote:
> >
> > > Doug,
> > >
> > > In response to what type of filter is best to use in your quest?
> > >
> > > The simplest and least expensive (more often than not) is "time."
> > >
> > > Time as a filter??????
> > >
> > > A good bit of glycerin can remain solute in biodiesel, as can much
> biodiesel
> > > remain solute in the glycerin cocktail, long after a substantial
waiting
> > > period. Hence the need to wash the biodiesel and the wise choice of
> > > aggregating the glycerin cocktail batch after batch, letting the
> remaining
> > > fraction of biodiesel "settle up" over time.
> > >
> > > What you might expect out of 55 gallons of glycerin cocktail over a
two
> week
> > > period of time is a "settling up" of perhaps 4-5 gallons of biodiesel.
> > >
> > > Nature (gravity) is a pretty good filter in this case, if you can
afford
> her
> > > the storage capacity and time.
> > >
> > > Todd Swearingen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Doug L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:25 PM
> > > Subject: [biofuel] filtering process
> > >
> > >
> > > > We have succeeded in our first batch and all is running well. We
> seperated
> > > > the biodiesel from the glycerine the day after the reaction and then
> found
> > > > that there was still lots of seperating to occur. We are getting
down
> to
> > > the
> > > > end of the batch and finding that the fuel is mixed with quite a bit
> of
> > > > glycerine and needs some serious filtering. We have tried a 10
micron
> > > filter
> > > > and a big cone filter with cloth filters. These do not seem do be
> doing
> > > the
> > > > job. We need something that will do a good job filtering in an
> efficient
> > > > amount of time. Any suggestions?
> > > > Doug Loewen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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