>From: girl Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Burnveggies] NBB >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:45:24 -0800 (PST) > >thank you christopher for an extremely >well-thought-out response! Again, it's ironic that the >NBB mentions ASTM standards like those had anything to >do with the fire, especialy when NBB members World >Energy and ImperialWestern Products/Baker Commodities >have both saddled consumers with expensive fuel system >repair bills this year as a result of filter-clogging >'astm' biodiesel which turned out to not be so ASTM >after all. (the repair bills being having vehicles >towed and diagnosed because no one expected that the >fuel could be causing clogging!) > >Lately I've been thinking about the grassroots shadow >convention idea (we're calling for a B100 users >conference to happen the weekend before the NBB >convention in southern cal) and what all of our >objectives are (ie the different objectives of the >different people working on this project). I:ve said >many times that we don't want to see biodiesel being >promoted with a blind "petroleum bad, biodiesel good' >attitude that promotes biodiesel as a single-issue >cause that ignores the bad things about the industry >and the sustainability issue that always comes with >agricultural products. YEt there ARE a few things that >the NBB does well (I can't think of too many of them- >they're very bad at promotio and advocacy, but the >website's library is one such thing) >anyway I've been thinking that we need to define what >are the strategically useful ways for peopel to work >with the NBB, as some of us no doubt will always want >to, and what are the strategically useful ways in >which we should set up parallel organisations or >structures. I'm curious how Marin Borque's (of the >Ecology Center) fleet manager education project is >coming, that's a parallel structure that could be much >more useful than the bad way the NBB does this job- >and of course B100 drivers are ignored totally by the >NBB other than as a form of free advertising. I called >the guy in the NBB who wrote the draft CDFA letter >that so many people sent on to the CDFA- the letter >basically called on the CDFA to proetect B20 and >nothing else- and I asked that guy (charles hatcher?) >what his proposed interim solutin does for higher >blends. He just about sputtered at me, 'higher blends >are such a niche market' which is basically the >industry's favorite line, in private, as I've learned >from meeting a lot of these people in private. They >liek the fact that we are good promotin for biodiesle, >they don' t see it worth their time to sell the stuff >as B100 to gas stations. With the proposed federal >excise tax reduction for biodiesle which facvors B20 >or leww very strongly over B100,, it is actually >against their very interest economically to sell the >stuff as anything higher than B20., >anyway these are just a few examples of NBB issues and >I"d like to see a discussion (perhaps at the shadow >convention) of strategy for biodiesel activists on >when is it useful and "OK" for peopel to work with the >NBB and when is it harmful oto the sustainabilty cause >or when is it just useless (like the various advocacy >things they do botch rather regularly). > >Oh and by the way I've met a few of the NBB board and >they're certainly 'nice people' which doesn't make me >want to support the work they do. > >mark > > >What I like & loathe about the NBB... > >This is partly in response to [Burnveggies] NBB: >"Homemade >biodiesel fuel not a good idea", and largely in >response to >their letter to the Gazette. > >First off, I basiclly agree with Heidi's & Jennifer's >responses. > >After reading the NBB letter to the Editor of the >Gazette, I >got the feeling that they were motivated more by the >goal of >slighting homebrew biodiesel than that of working to >keep >people safe(r). And thus, here's my rant about the >NBB. > >It seems very much as though they're trying to plant a >'marketing seed' that there is a "fuel quality" >problem. >A common device in marketing. The establishment of a >problem or >need to be solved or fulfilled, often one that wasn't >really >there before the 'solution-product' was made >available. > >I'm sure I'd possibly like any NBB person I met and >got to >know, but I definitely have the contradictory feelings >of like >& loathe for the NBB in general. Some of the things I >attribute >to those feelings are: > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now >http://companion.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Burnveggies mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://goblin.punk.net/mailman/listinfo/burnveggies
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