Tom,

The biofuel list is by far the best list that I encountered, not only for 
biofuels, but also for general energy discussions. I think that this is 
natural, if you really read through the JTF and its very worthy goals. Why 
is it the best and have no match,

- A clear vision and excellent management by Keith. It has been expressed 
by so many lately, so I have not much to add.

- A very good and qualified membership and truly international, with no 
dominating nationality. It is very rare and difficult to create this and it 
is an achievement that Keith have all the rights to be proud of.

- It is the list of JTF and not a list of a biofuel organization. It is a 
list for furthering goals for people and not an organization or 
corporation. The list is for the members and not one or more special 
interests. It is a vibrant and living mirror of people and what concern 
them in questions of life and its sustainability. Of course it is mostly 
biofuel because it represent all of it.

I gone through a few list to try to find similar good discussion groups in 
different fields, that I could recommend to the visitors on my web site. It 
is a few good ones, I have not found any with the membership profile as the 
biofuel list. On some you only have to say hello, to end up in a discussion 
about nuclear power, which seem to be the answer to everything from 
composting toilets to home design. I have been told that I am ignorant and 
bad engineer, because my English is bad and not my native language, to be a 
good engineer you have to be American, with perfect spelling and grammar. 
If I am not interested in a subject on biofuel list, I do not read the 
mails and delete them, it is not my goal to have people to only discuss 
what I am interested in.

To try to limit the communication on the biofuel list or have views about 
its right to existence is not constructive. If you look at the Internet 
situation today, were more than 80% of a normal persons emails are SPAM, I 
think that it is not fruitful or serve nothing to do topic limitations on 
the biofuel list. LOL

Hakan

At 21:59 22/01/2004, you wrote:
>I'm being provocative again. Is the otherwise interesting topic of wind
>energy appropriate on a biofuels mailing list? If so, will this list also 
>cover
>hydroelectric power, geothermal power, wave energy, etc.? I just dropped the
>energyresources Yahoo group because of the unrelenting number of posts was 
>too
>much to handle for long. It may be good data in its own way, but does it 
>belong
>here?
>
>Tom Leue
>
>
>In a message dated 1/22/04 3:34:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > The wind rarely stops blowing out here for very long.We now have some large
> > turbine farms streching from near abilene west to iraan-rankin and other
> > areas.We could put up a million of them out here without counting new
> > mexico,arizona
> > or california.They even make our small mountains more scenic to me![you can
> > see plum into next week out here and there are areas where you may not 
> even
> > see
> > a plane fly over for several days]I believe that Tesla found ways to store
> > and transfer electricity that were deemed too usefull for "little 
> people"by
> > the
> > dragon system[it will be a real beast soon]  Florida Power and Light put up
> > most of west texas's wind turbines,i believe.
> >
> > -----------------------------
>Homestead Inc.
>www.yellowbiodiesel.com



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