<x-charset ISO-8859-1>Got to correct one error that has been repeated several times on this list. The IRS exemption is for a total of 400 gallons per year, not 400 per quarter. It makes quite a difference.
Tom Leue In a message dated 1/28/04 1:33:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Paul B.Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > One more for the night... :) > > > > I've heard things from time to time about legal this and not legal > > that.€˛I tried searching the archives for some hard data but was > > overwhelmed with my search results.€˛Anybody have any hard data > on:€˛( I > > live in Vermont if that makes any difference)€˛Which of these are > > national EPA issues and which are state issues? > > > > 1.€˛Taxes...€˛I heard I can sell biodiesel for any off road use > (marine > > as well !!??) and not have to collect sales tax on it.. correct? > > > > > Not quite correct. You can sell biodiesel for offroad use without > registering as a fuel or fuel additives producer with the EPA (which > is the process that is now dominated by the NBB). I believe you still > need to follow state and federal tax laws. Sales tax is generally > something different than 'excise tax' on things such as fuels. > > > 2.€˛For personal consumption I don't need any sort of license to > produce > > it... correct? > > > > You need to follow local and federal environmental regulations, which > may include: secondary containment (ie something to keep the stuff > out of the ground if you have a spill), limitations on the quantities > of ingredients and total chemicals (including vegoil and biodiesel) > which you have stored on site, having MSDS avaiilable, etc. HOWEVER! > most fire marshalls and other local authorities would probably be > quite upset if you were making biodiesel, and real-world experience > has shown that local authorities' interpretation of the hazards of > what you€˛are doing are VERY variable. AND- while these rules are a > good idea to follow for your own and others' safety, most peopel just > do not let any of their authorities know that they are making small > quantities of biodiesel. > > The IRS does not collect federal excise tax on the first 1600 gallons > per year of fuel that you make at home, which makes the majority of > us exempt from this federal fuel tax. State authorities however might > collect state excise tax on this fuel, or they might not, depending > on the state. In California they are all set up to recieve your money > (Board of Equalization is the state tax authority in CA) > > > > 3.€˛To sell biodiesel, I dont need a license if it's for off road > use > > (needs to be dyed red still though.. yes? - dye with what?)..€‹> correct? > > To sell anything you probably need some sort of license (like > business license). However you do not need to register as a producer > of fuels or fuel additives with the EPA if you are selling for > offroad use. As far as I know, there is no standardization for red > dyes and biodiesel yet, as some of the yellow-grease-based fuel is a > cranberry red color in it's natural state. > > > > > 4.€˛The ASTM standards need to be met to be a commercial producer.€‹> > > OK.€‹> > > as in, it's part of registering with the EPA. Then there is no > further enforcement of quality as per all the stuff Keith's message > just quoted. and there's lots of evidence that there have been a few > commercial producers creating offspec fuel and selling it. > > > > Can anybody certify then (doubtful) or does it have to be a > government > > body of some sort?€‹> > I believe it's a laboratory such as Magellan-Midstream/Williams > Laboratories in Kansas City (the cheapest lab I've found, the tests > run about $500 for the whole round and $89 for 'total and free > glycerol' which is the specification most likely to be 'off'). There > is no government body who oversees this part of the testing. > > From what I've read, it seems like big companies can > > set up their own labs and certify their fuels as they need to, so > if I > > had cash to spend I could buy the testing equipment and do it > myself > > technically ...Correct? > > > > Producers run in-house testing for their own 'in-house' feedback on > their quality control, but for EPA registration I belive it's usually > done through an outside lab. Someone shoud call the NBB for fun and > see what their stance on the quality control within their industry > is. Ask them how they enforce that the sample submitted for EPA > resgistration is actually a representative sample of what the > producer will be selling. Ask them how much they ensure that the fuel > that their members will sell is actually ASTM D-6751 compliant. > > > ----------------------------- Homestead Inc. www.yellowbiodiesel.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ </x-charset>