In a message dated 2/22/04 1:42:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Try Libby Montana > http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/asbestos/asbestos_study.html > > > A mortality review > <http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/asbestos/mortality_in_libby.html>, which > compared death rates for residents of the Libby area with those in > Montana and the United States for selected diseases associated with > exposure to asbestos (1979–1998). The review found that for the 20-year > period examined, mortality from asbestosis was approximately 40 times > higher than the rest of Montana and 60 times higher than the rest of the > United States. > > > > > -- > Bob No. In any -- repeat ANY -- of the studies on lung diseases where asbestos is being implicated, smoking confounds the data to the point that the results are virtually meaningless. The ship insulators who died of asbestosis? They ALL smoked. The only disease positively linked to asbestos is mesotheleomia and I've not found any data on mortality due to this for about five years or more. But in all candor, this all misses the point. Asbestos is a marvelous material. If the hazards associated with its use are recognized and dealt with, there is no reason not to use it. Transite is a concrete and chrysotile blend that has great insulating and strength properties. It is in a matrix where the fibers cannot escape unless someone deliberately grinds away at the surface. Brake linings of asbestos worked better than the organic linings currently used, etc. For heaven sakes, use common sense. Even water can be deadly. How many drownings, electrocutions in water or chokings due to water occur each year? Is there to be a movement to ban water too? Here we are, in a group trying to make biofuels a reality and we are hung up on idiotic issues brought to us by lawyers and politicians? Hogwash. How can anyone rant about bureaucratic obstacles to alternative fuels on the one hand and quote "statistics" from the same bureaucrats on the other? Here's one for you: The government keeps repeating that "second-hand smoke is the third-leading cause of death due to lung cancer." Uh-huh. They haven't lied. Except that they misled. See, the SECOND leading cause is exposure to Radon gas. The way the data is expressed makes the average listener assume the steps between first, second, third are even. They aren't. See the attached chart. It is in MSWord. -- Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/