MM,
I think that the EVs and hybrids based on biodiesel, are much better and viable alternatives to any hydrogen vehicle. Anyway, if you drove hydrogen vehicle, it cannot be many kilometers or miles. Did they tell you the cost of the tank, I heard that it was around $20,000 with a range of around 100 miles. Hakan At 22:16 02/03/2004, you wrote: >Overall, I tend to agree with your thesis on your page, that damage is >already done. > >On the issue of Oil Depletion, I've heard some conflicting accounts. >But even in the unlikely event that the world were *still* awash in >Oil, I do believe that we Americans could and will solve that >"problem" by making even more gas guzzlers for even the poorest people >in other Countries, so that we can all use up as much of the >easy-to-get Oil as quickly as possible, so that then we can really see >what the alternatives are. > >In any case, if Global Warming turns out to have any validity at all, >then this concern warrants actions which parallel many of the actions >needed to correct for energy-depletion. > >In my own personal house and affairs I am finding that there is so >much room for improvement of energy conservation, and the form of use, >that it will be many years before I'm close-to-satisfied on the >matter. > >On Hydrogen: > >1. One thing to say in favor of Hydrogen, that I haven't seen >thoroughly discussed elsewhere: a household based on splitting >hydrogen and recombining it might also combine this activity with >water purification. > >2. I've had brief test-drives of most of the H2 vehicles you see >talked-about. I have to tell you that the vehicles performed very >well. I'm not trying to tell you I know a lot about them in everday >long-term-use conditions or that there aren't a lot of very valid >objections to those vehicles. I'm just passing on that they performed >very much like regular cars in the brief drives I had. > >3. I wonder if one couldn't build a home hydrogen splitting and >recombining device such that the Hydrogen was allowed to float 50 or >so feet upward before it was stored and recombined with Oxygen. The >"waste" H2O could be stored at that height, and the potential energy >of its height could be gained when needed by allowing it to fall down >a mini hydropower unit. The waste water could then be collected in a >pool for the water to be used or split, and the cycle re-started. Ok, >so this is a little further out there, but I'm just asking... > >MM > > > >On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 00:50:52 +0100, you wrote: > > > > >MM, > > > >All info about Russia coal etc. is there if you follow the links and read > >the information and data from me and others. 9/11 and aftermath is not > >there. Yes, I belive that Bush tried to secure deliveries, to be able to > >pursue the Iraq annexation. He lost the second largest supplier to US by > >attacking Iraq. Maybe you remember the coup attempt in Venezuela and other > >things, they all fit in the pattern you talk about. This is however a blip, > >that is not noticeable in going through the depletion scenarios, but very > >interesting anyway. > > > >Russia and former Soviet Union, have the same problem as Iraq. It is no > >production capacity, because of the state of the equipment and > >installations. The swing producers are the only ones that can sufficiently > >adopt to different production volumes, the rest produce what they can. > > > >I do mention coal and it is also a section in the BP statistics about it. > >It is however a lot to expand on and it will keep me occupied for a long > >time, but it is all analysis and conclusions based on the data that is > >already there. It is also quite interesting to follow how Bush and Cheney > >have been leading everybody from the "clean hydrogen" to a dirty production > >of it from coal. I have not assumed that they and their masters do not know > >what they are doing. It is the ordinary people that do not know what is > >going on. > > > >Hakan . > >> >Fossil energy depletion and emission. > >> ><<http://energysavingnow.com/depletion/>http://energysavingnow.com/dep > letion/>http://energysavingnow.com/depletion/ > >> > > >> >Thought about posting on the list, when this discussion came up. > >> > > >> >It is very hard to see a scenario where US do not have to "beg OPEC", > even > >> >if they started with appropriate technologies yesterday. It is not a > matter > >> >of "getting worse before it get better", it is only the option of getting > >> >worse. The other US option is securing supply by annexation, which is > their > >> >current line. Personally I doubt that US will pull that off, other > then if > >> >that themselves abandoned democracy. Very difficult situation. 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